Hey dude, though you might like to see this. Two of my best mates have gone to live in thailand for a year or more and with my t shirt addiction influence i get them to show me cool t shirts that they see around, this weeks choice was fresh straight off a random little market stall in/near bangkok. <img src="http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2852/img0001mt7.jpg" /> <a href="http://gilbodyanddeacon.blogspot.com/">Gilb & Deacons Thailand adventure </a> Looks like a good print 2008-11-24T16:47:27-05:00 54 2008-11-22T09:38:38-05:00 true 0 10721 false false 2879 2829 1 2009-11-21T16:36:24-05:00 1104 Jeebus cripes! 10721 Post 2008-11-22T09:40:12-05:00 277562 3005 2008-11-22T09:40:12-05:00 I like the colours. where do they get the images from? 10721 Post 2008-11-22T09:41:03-05:00 277563 2802 2008-11-22T09:53:33-05:00 Did they buy it and take a photo wearing it? 10721 Post 2008-11-22T10:10:13-05:00 277573 3005 2008-11-22T10:10:13-05:00 <blockquote><cite>godmachine said:</cite> I like the colours. where do they get the images from?</blockquote> Wow the print aint too bad at all. Did you have some hi-res images lying around in flickr or something? 10721 Post 2008-11-22T11:22:06-05:00 277607 1259 2008-11-22T11:22:06-05:00 or rhis was like traced or someone redone this for printing... 10721 Post 2008-11-22T11:45:25-05:00 277622 9047 2008-11-22T11:45:25-05:00 saw one of these shirt lastnight looks fantastic 10721 Post 2008-11-22T11:55:41-05:00 277625 5678 2008-11-22T11:55:41-05:00 what the hell? I don't get what's going on here 10721 Post 2008-11-22T12:03:12-05:00 277628 7945 2008-11-22T12:03:12-05:00 I think GM is reselling them on the side to support his crack addiction. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T12:13:31-05:00 277631 2879 2008-11-22T12:13:31-05:00 Maybe whoever distributes the shirts for the band has an outlet in Thailand? 10721 Post 2008-11-22T12:18:24-05:00 277635 1811 2008-11-22T12:18:24-05:00 I spoke to him about the print he said it looks real nice, so i guess your high res was leaked somewere, or yea the company that print that top have an outlet in thailand. Yea my mate brought it said though i would like it, which i do. its slightly strange setting but thought you might want to see anyhow, i wonder who elses work is out there lol, ill try get him to take a photo of the whole stall an im probly sure we could pick a good hand full off emptee's Only cost £2 10721 Post 2008-11-22T13:15:15-05:00 277672 2829 2008-11-22T13:17:09-05:00 Chatuchak market in Bangkok, Thailand if apparently full of rips. There was this (if I remember well) Croatian online shop that 40% of their tee designs were Threadless rip offs and of other independent labels. When confronted they replied that they got them all from some retailer at Chatuchak market. Clearly they were oblivious to the fact that these were rips and they pulled down all infringing designs (poor bastards). Somehow they got ripped off too buy buying those tees. Seems from what I see around rips lately are of very high standards making it very difficult to pick out which one is the rip and which one is not. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T14:10:43-05:00 277706 2471 2008-11-22T14:10:52-05:00 Just had a look through some of your tees i also bought this one at the same stall . . . They are rad designs and the print on these are good quality its a shame your losing out on it though. <img src="http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3356/img0025as4.jpg" /> 10721 Post 2008-11-22T14:36:11-05:00 277724 6764 2008-11-22T14:37:00-05:00 wow!!! this sucks! 10721 Post 2008-11-22T14:46:06-05:00 277734 2691 2008-11-22T14:46:06-05:00 I prefer the print of the rip off then the hoc version. man these guys are good 10721 Post 2008-11-22T14:49:14-05:00 277737 2829 2008-11-22T14:55:38-05:00 Even the "detailed images" size drawings most of you guys post on here are good enough for a bootlegger to use. With BDM we've had tons of problems with bootleggers. They took our old myspace background and made that into a shirt. Mexico was the worst. The bootleggers scanned pictures of our shirts off indiemerch and just blew them up and printed (so the shadows and folds from the pic were printed!). They threw our logo on other bands album art (a Dying Fetus album cover with BDM logo haha) and even photocopied our belt buckle and printed it on a shirt. It was retarded. The only way to combat it is to offered officially licensed versions of your shirts EVERYWHERE (or do what we did...). 10721 Post 2008-11-22T14:50:59-05:00 277740 7356 2008-11-22T14:50:59-05:00 <blockquote><cite>karimnlsl said:</cite> Even the "detailed images" size drawings most of you guys post on here are good enough for a bootlegger to use. With BDM we've had tons of problems with bootleggers. They took our old myspace background and made that into a shirt. Mexico was the worst. The bootleggers scanned pictures of our shirts off indiemerch and just blew them up and printed (so the shadows and folds from the pic were printed!). They threw our logo on other bands album art (a Dying Fetus album cover with BDM logo haha) and even photocopied our belt buckle and printed it on a shirt. It was retarded. The only way to combat it is to offered officially licensed versions of your shirts EVERYWHERE (or do what we did...).</blockquote> that is fucking crazy! 10721 Post 2008-11-22T14:55:07-05:00 277743 2691 2008-11-22T14:55:07-05:00 <blockquote><cite>karimnlsl said:</cite>The only way to combat it is to offered officially licensed versions of your shirts EVERYWHERE (or do what we did...).</blockquote> So you're saying you had to gut him? 10721 Post 2008-11-22T15:16:58-05:00 277762 7834 2008-11-22T15:16:58-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Jamesgilbody said:</cite> Just had a look through some of your tees i also bought this one at the same stall . . . They are rad designs and the print on these are good quality its a shame your losing out on it though. <img src="http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3356/img0025as4.jpg" /></blockquote> they printed it bigger!!!! 10721 Post 2008-11-22T15:29:17-05:00 277769 1146 2008-11-22T15:29:17-05:00 Both tees they've printed are pretty badass. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T15:31:36-05:00 277772 9118 2008-11-22T15:31:36-05:00 Wow, that's ridiculous. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T15:33:26-05:00 277773 1855 2008-11-22T15:33:26-05:00 ... 10721 Post 2008-11-22T16:04:05-05:00 277790 9560 2008-11-22T16:04:05-05:00 <blockquote><cite>collisiontheory said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>godmachine said:</cite> I like the colours. where do they get the images from?</blockquote> Wow the print aint too bad at all. Did you have some hi-res images lying around in flickr or something?</blockquote> I dont have a flikr account and there is no high res images online at all apart than from what is on emptees. Its not really me thats losing out, its the people I sell them to that they are ultimatly ripping off. Its crazy eh. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T16:21:51-05:00 277807 2802 2008-11-22T16:21:51-05:00 Its cause the internet is a wonderful and horrible thing. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T16:34:02-05:00 277812 8810 2008-11-22T16:34:02-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Fredette said:</cite> So you're saying you had to gut him?</blockquote> Colonel Mustard with the lead pipe in the study 10721 Post 2008-11-22T16:35:50-05:00 277813 7356 2008-11-22T16:35:50-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Jamesgilbody said:</cite> Just had a look through some of your tees i also bought this one at the same stall . . . They are rad designs and the print on these are good quality its a shame your losing out on it though. <img src="http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3356/img0025as4.jpg" /></blockquote> Yeah hands on are losing out on this one . Not godmachine. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T16:59:59-05:00 277837 1742 2008-11-22T16:59:59-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Hays said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Jamesgilbody said:</cite> Just had a look through some of your tees i also bought this one at the same stall . . . They are rad designs and the print on these are good quality its a shame your losing out on it though. <img src="http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3356/img0025as4.jpg" /></blockquote> Yeah hands on are losing out on this one . Not godmachine.</blockquote> Our demographic doesn't really hit thailand, so its not a biggy to me really, it still sucks though, even though we just got the bigger print done, they're on the way from Derisory right now! 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:26:13-05:00 277937 3770 2008-11-22T19:26:13-05:00 <blockquote><cite>suffoca said:</cite> I prefer the print of the rip off then the hoc version. man these guys are good</blockquote> same, thats why we sell it small as b-grade rather than usingthem as rags! 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:27:56-05:00 277939 3770 2008-11-22T19:28:08-05:00 they MUST have seen a high res image somewhere to get the detail on that.. some of it is improvised looking at a high res version and some of the lines are thicker, but i mean, its pretty much line to line identical.. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:33:18-05:00 277942 3770 2008-11-22T19:35:19-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Hands On Clothing said:</cite> they MUST have seen a high res image somewhere to get the detail on that..</blockquote> Nah, not really. A good quality detail pic like gets posted around here would work alright. As long as it's sharp enough, it won't lose a ton in the scale, especially if they have some decent scaling algorithms. A little bit of touch up, and you have a print. It does suck though. Sorry to see you guys getting ripped off. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:37:51-05:00 277944 997 2008-11-22T19:37:51-05:00 They can always just buy the shirt and scan that it. It doesn't always have to be stolen from the internet. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:40:05-05:00 277947 1219 2008-11-22T19:40:05-05:00 <blockquote><cite>heavyprints said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Hands On Clothing said:</cite> they MUST have seen a high res image somewhere to get the detail on that..</blockquote> Nah, not really. A good quality detail pic like gets posted around here would work alright. As long as it's sharp enough, it won't lose a ton in the scale, especially if they have some decent scaling algorithms. A little bit of touch up, and you have a print. It does suck though. Sorry to see you guys getting ripped off.</blockquote> Theres nothing like that ever been posted anywhere.. max size posted has been like 350x350 MAX and mocked up on a shirt; i mean its pretty much identical... <img src="http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2971/comparetl3.gif" /> 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:40:10-05:00 277948 3770 2008-11-22T19:40:10-05:00 yea man, im prity sure it wont effect the sales of your new version, was that a mistake by the printer before then? 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:40:28-05:00 277951 2829 2008-11-22T19:40:28-05:00 <blockquote><cite>suffoca said:</cite> yea man, im prity sure it wont effect the sales of your new version, was that a mistake by the printer before then?</blockquote> I said i wanted oversized screens for everything, but the design wasnt at the right size so my printer did the right thing and printed it based on the file dimensions, i didn't really think about it enough, but we agreed to have them printed again at cost at the full size of the shirt. I'm actually really not bothered about it being sold in thailand, it really wont affect anything, it's just freaky weird. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:45:01-05:00 277955 3770 2008-11-22T19:45:24-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Jamesgilbody said:</cite> Just had a look through some of your tees i also bought this one at the same stall . . . They are rad designs and the print on these are good quality its a shame your losing out on it though. <img src="http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3356/img0025as4.jpg" /></blockquote> rep it loads! ;] 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:45:46-05:00 277957 3770 2008-11-22T19:45:46-05:00 The lines on theirs look beefier to me, like they might have been a bit blurry at one point... or traced. Some of the lines in the knock off don't articulate as much as the original. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:46:43-05:00 277959 997 2008-11-22T19:46:43-05:00 i feel like importing them from thailand if they are just £2 each, they look pretty damn good! 10721 Post 2008-11-22T19:48:51-05:00 277963 3770 2008-11-22T19:48:51-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Hands On Clothing said:</cite> i feel like importing them from thailand if they are just £2 each, they look pretty damn good!</blockquote> You mean use them as your printers? haha. might work out for you after all if you're printing at more than £2 per shirt hehe 10721 Post 2008-11-22T21:06:51-05:00 278038 1259 2008-11-22T21:06:51-05:00 we should start a "made in thailand" thread, and just start posting shirts we are finding in that country as well as surrounding areas. 10721 Post 2008-11-22T21:26:55-05:00 278056 1087 2008-11-22T21:26:55-05:00 <blockquote><cite>collisiontheory said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Hands On Clothing said:</cite> i feel like importing them from thailand if they are just £2 each, they look pretty damn good!</blockquote> You mean use them as your printers? haha. might work out for you after all if you're printing at more than £2 per shirt hehe</blockquote> haha if the t-shirt itself didnt look like a mess i'd so do that! 10721 Post 2008-11-22T21:32:45-05:00 278061 3770 2008-11-22T21:32:45-05:00 a couple of mates are coming out for two weeks so i'll be trawling the markets and shopping areas of bangkok for a few days i'll post some more finds :) and don't worry i've been repping both shirts loads :) i could probs post some out if your willing to sub postage n that as i'm pretty skint at the moment! 10721 Post 2008-11-23T02:15:23-05:00 278168 6764 2008-11-23T02:15:23-05:00 ok I'll tell you guys how they do this... They buy the stuff and scan it, then re-do the entire process again. I'd say if you are shipping to thailand, or anywhere in Asia for that matter, just get some extra details of who they are and so forth. 10721 Post 2008-11-23T04:24:54-05:00 278195 303 2008-11-23T04:24:54-05:00 <blockquote><cite>downrodeo said:</cite> ok I'll tell you guys how they do this... They buy the stuff and scan it, then re-do the entire process again. I'd say if you are shipping to thailand, or anywhere in Asia for that matter, just get some extra details of who they are and so forth.</blockquote> Hey Rik, have you ever sent an order to Thailand or Asia then? 10721 Post 2008-11-23T07:17:02-05:00 278224 5804 2008-11-23T07:17:02-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Backfire said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>downrodeo said:</cite> ok I'll tell you guys how they do this... They buy the stuff and scan it, then re-do the entire process again. I'd say if you are shipping to thailand, or anywhere in Asia for that matter, just get some extra details of who they are and so forth.</blockquote> Hey Rik, have you ever sent an order to Thailand or Asia then?</blockquote> nope, but i have sent to south korea, but they never baught ripper. It's possible its been sent to another location and they have reshipped it. took me about 10minutes to trail through reciepts and find that out, so i'm not going to process of elimination it and find out! 10721 Post 2008-11-23T07:56:19-05:00 278230 3770 2008-11-23T07:58:16-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Jamesgilbody said:</cite> a couple of mates are coming out for two weeks so i'll be trawling the markets and shopping areas of bangkok for a few days i'll post some more finds :) and don't worry i've been repping both shirts loads :) i could probs post some out if your willing to sub postage n that as i'm pretty skint at the moment!</blockquote> If you find anymore, please buy them and i'll pay for them and postage! 10721 Post 2008-11-23T07:59:37-05:00 278231 3770 2008-11-23T07:59:37-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Hands On Clothing said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Backfire said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>downrodeo said:</cite> ok I'll tell you guys how they do this... They buy the stuff and scan it, then re-do the entire process again. I'd say if you are shipping to thailand, or anywhere in Asia for that matter, just get some extra details of who they are and so forth.</blockquote> Hey Rik, have you ever sent an order to Thailand or Asia then?</blockquote> nope, but i have sent to south korea, but they never baught ripper. It's possible its been sent to another location and they have reshipped it. took me about 10minutes to trail through reciepts and find that out, so i'm not going to process of elimination it and find out!</blockquote> Or it could simply be someone from the US or any other country that picks out the designs to rip, buys them, traces them and sells the files to the printers over at Thailand. 10721 Post 2008-11-23T08:07:39-05:00 278234 2471 2008-11-23T08:08:20-05:00 <blockquote><cite>manos said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Hands On Clothing said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Backfire said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>downrodeo said:</cite> ok I'll tell you guys how they do this... They buy the stuff and scan it, then re-do the entire process again. I'd say if you are shipping to thailand, or anywhere in Asia for that matter, just get some extra details of who they are and so forth.</blockquote> Hey Rik, have you ever sent an order to Thailand or Asia then?</blockquote> nope, but i have sent to south korea, but they never baught ripper. It's possible its been sent to another location and they have reshipped it. took me about 10minutes to trail through reciepts and find that out, so i'm not going to process of elimination it and find out!</blockquote> Or it could simply be someone from the US or any other country that picks out the designs to rip, buys them, traces them and sells the files to the printers over at Thailand.</blockquote> Great job they have! haha 10721 Post 2008-11-23T08:10:48-05:00 278235 3770 2008-11-23T08:10:48-05:00 <img src="http://media.tumblr.com/zcTqHiK8cff9fa0nA3HpKOZEo1_400.jpg" /> 10721 Post 2008-11-23T08:11:33-05:00 278236 2802 2008-11-23T08:12:05-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Hands On Clothing said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>manos said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Hands On Clothing said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Backfire said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>downrodeo said:</cite> ok I'll tell you guys how they do this... They buy the stuff and scan it, then re-do the entire process again. I'd say if you are shipping to thailand, or anywhere in Asia for that matter, just get some extra details of who they are and so forth.</blockquote> Hey Rik, have you ever sent an order to Thailand or Asia then?</blockquote> nope, but i have sent to south korea, but they never baught ripper. It's possible its been sent to another location and they have reshipped it. took me about 10minutes to trail through reciepts and find that out, so i'm not going to process of elimination it and find out!</blockquote> Or it could simply be someone from the US or any other country that picks out the designs to rip, buys them, traces them and sells the files to the printers over at Thailand.</blockquote> Great job they have! haha</blockquote> If you consider the amount of rips out there I bet they are making very good money, fast and easy plus these could be the same people selling them at the markets by just using Thailand as their base of operation since they are aware that no one can touch them there. 10721 Post 2008-11-23T08:15:17-05:00 278238 2471 2008-11-23T08:15:17-05:00 <img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/emptees/images/41122/te.jpg" /> 10721 Post 2008-11-23T14:35:36-05:00 278405 881 2008-11-23T14:35:36-05:00 I'm thai. I saw many your designs at Jatujuk Market,i know inst it not real. cause it have low quality to sew and print.them not heedful to details.if they know what cool now,just take it some pic or small file.not much ,not much . them can re-do to bigger and print it shit!!! oh suck!!! ... i so sorry and sad to my people.my friend had one time,them coppy my friend's tees and mytees and them make alot and cheapen selling at Pratoonum near Biyoktower.my friend advertise and take cop to catch they one time.but them do again...shit!!!. I'm one designer,i know you feel . i so sorry and sad about here. 10721 Post 2008-11-24T16:01:00-05:00 279570 9560 2008-11-24T16:01:00-05:00 <blockquote><cite>karimnlsl said:</cite> The only way to combat it is to offered officially licensed versions of your shirts EVERYWHERE (or do what we did...).</blockquote> yes ...but how? maybe next monday take some pic for shit from here. 10721 Post 2008-11-24T16:05:08-05:00 279576 9560 2008-11-24T16:05:08-05:00 They probably use software similar to Genuine Fractals (a photoshop plug-in) to enlarge it. 10721 Post 2008-11-24T16:12:49-05:00 279583 2329 2008-11-24T16:12:49-05:00 Yeah. I have pictures of a ripped off version of our "Battle" shirt. They were up for sale a few months after I had mine for sale. On closer inspection, the details do look pretty bad. 10721 Post 2008-11-24T16:20:19-05:00 279592 1157 2008-11-24T16:20:19-05:00 Its pretty insane that they do this. If they ripped me I´d be stoked. So glad to see designs like that instead of shit billabong/quiksilver commercial crap 10721 Post 2008-11-24T16:47:27-05:00 279636 2879 2008-11-24T16:47:27-05:00