So apparently theres been alot of bayside, silverstein and other submissions to victory records, and id like to get in on the action, wheres the email address to send these things in, any one care to share?
So apparently theres been alot of bayside, silverstein and other submissions to victory records, and id like to get in on the action, wheres the email address to send these things in, any one care to share?
19 Comments
Randomentity said 6 months ago
http://www.emptees.com/posts/2760-i-need-merch-designs-fast-paying-gig
AverGrace said 6 months ago
thanks
corefolio said 2 months ago
I submitted this to doublej (a Victory rec. tour manager) almost 10 days ago after receiving an email from him where asked to submit some ideas.
I never get answer...
Randomentity said 2 months ago
they rejected my BTBAM shirt as well.
Albeit not as good as yours. But then again, yours is worth a lot more than what they would pay.
Here’s mine. All I got back was a "The band didn’t like this" gotta love spec!
justgeoff said 2 months ago
STOP DOING SPEC!
Randomentity said 2 months ago
done and done! That was my last ever. The reply really did it for me. I was pretty heated.
justgeoff said 2 months ago
Good to hear you’ve listened to wisdom
Boycott Christian HC said 2 months ago
Corefolio, that shirt rules.
doublej said 2 months ago
my email address is doublej@victoryrecords.com if have a complaint/concern email me. or im me 'doublejineffect'
Spec work is always a risk, its great for new/young designers and it kills me to reject designs as i know what goes into it. The majority of the time it is out of my hands. There is no need to complain about this on a message board.
Andrea nailed this job, that design is amazing, but getting approvals is like pulling teeth!
Danimal! said 2 months ago
it’s really not great for new/young designers. It’s great for clients who want to take advantage of new/young designers.
Cole said 2 months ago
uhm. wrong.
heroes said 2 months ago
i dont see the problem with spec work people arnt stupid people know the what they are getting into
so as ive said before if you want to do spec do it if you dont just ignore it. Is it that hard
and if your item gets rejected dont moan you knew what you were getting into before you submitted
MykeCatastrophic said 2 months ago
Dude that came out sick! I want to see a detailed shot of it.
FRENDEN said 2 months ago
It devalues the work of everyone. So, while you may not have a problem with spec, you’re hurting the rest of us. Get it?
This is not just the opinion of a few people on this board. It is prevailing wisdom.
http://www.no-spec.com/
heroes said 2 months ago
i dont do spec anymore and i get what your saying
but to accuse people who do spec of ruining the industry seems a bit harsh
there just trying to pay bills and maybe dont get as many job offers as there name isnt out there yet
i just think its better to educate that to tell people what to do and at the end of the day its there own personal choice
corefolio said 2 months ago
my problem is that I don’t get the design rejected... I don’t get answer from him.
ithew said 2 months ago
or any answer back really...
btw that shirt you did RULES
DrewGliever said 2 months ago
I’ve definitely learned my lesson with spec, even just working on it.. I constantly wonder whether or not they’ll dig it.
Danimal! said 2 months ago
You shouldn’t give people your services unless they are going to pay you for them. You can’t go to a psychiatrist and not pay if you don’t like what they say. You can’t call a bunch of contractors and have them carpet different rooms of your house and only pay the one who does the best job. There aren’t many professions where clients can get you to do the work, and then decide whether you are worth paying or not. If you have a portfolio of work then anyone who wants you to do work can decide whether you do good work based on your previous works.
If your just starting out and don’t have a good portfolio of work then maybe you should do a few discount/pro bono work for some local/regional bands. Build a relationship with them and agree you will do this many designs at this discounted rate. Then as the band grows they will tell other bands and you will grow along with them.
All these call outs that just want every possible designer to design whatever they want with no direction given just seems so fickle. It is wrong of clients to ask you to do the work with no intention to pay. I guess as long as designers do it then why would they have any reason to stop.