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  <body>Someone just brought this to my attention:

This is mine:

http://emptees.com/tees/1252-convey-happiness#comments

This is the rip: 

http://www.threadless.com/product/1943/Smiley_Factory

What should I do?

Note: I submitted my version to threadless.com close to a year ago. It completed scoring with a decent score but was never printed. </body>
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  <title>Threadless rip</title>
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      <body>oh shit! Contact them. maybe a coincidence but it does look very very similar.</body>
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      <body>i've seen this idea in a funnier version years ago.
/thread</body>
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      <body>i cant really see the ript. He deffinitely inspired from your work but the execution is totaly different</body>
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      <body>yeah, I don't know if I'd call this a rip. same idea but totally different execution;0(</body>
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      <body>Its a concept rip, but the designs are different</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;110specialblack said:&lt;/cite&gt; i've seen this idea in a funnier version years ago.
/thread&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I fuckin drew it years ago..I drew the original in 2003</body>
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      <body>There is no way this is a coincidence..I submitted mine to threadless a year ago.. How am I supposed to sell mine when theres another one out there?</body>
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      <body>Damn, dunno what to say cos I think his works better as a tee. I guess he probably took the idea from you but I love what he did with it.</body>
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      <body>it is definitely possible that he saw yours, but equally possible he didn't. either way it isn't a rip, just a different take on a concept. well done too.</body>
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      <body>I'd say it's a coincidence for sure but the blow dryer/clockwork orange parts seem kinda damning. Since the original was a ways back it could be &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptomnesia"&gt;cryptomnesia&lt;/a&gt; as much as an actual rip, but tbh I think there's enough room for benefit of the doubt to argue it was just two people arriving at the same idea.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;sittingduck said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;110specialblack said:&lt;/cite&gt; i've seen this idea in a funnier version years ago.
/thread&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I fuckin drew it years ago..I drew the original in 2003&lt;/blockquote&gt;

no accusation. but the idea is pretty obvious that's why i'd be careful with calling it a rip. 
but ok i had a second look and the process in the factory is quite similar. talk to the designer first.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;skull with hair said:&lt;/cite&gt; it is definitely possible that he saw yours, but equally possible he didn't. either way it isn't a rip, just a different take on a concept. well done too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can see why your pissed, but i really do not think you can call this a rip.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;skull with hair said:&lt;/cite&gt; it is definitely possible that he saw yours, but equally possible he didn't. either way it isn't a rip, just a different take on a concept. well done too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

</body>
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      <body>I've seen this concept done so many times. I wouldn't call it a rip.</body>
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      <body>Votes for a rip: 3
Votes against a rip: 10</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;gaunty said:&lt;/cite&gt; Damn, dunno what to say cos I think his works better as a tee. I guess he probably took the idea from you but I love what he did with it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

</body>
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      <body>thats fucked up</body>
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      <body>I hate how most of you are so quick to call something that looks the same a rip but when it is the same idea you just brush it off.

I feel like ideas are much harder to come across than the look of a design. 

Someone also said they saw it before, so who knows, maybe you weren't the first.

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      <body>&lt;img src="http://th03.deviantart.net/images/300W/i/2001/44/5/8/the_smile_factory.jpg" /&gt;
Submitted: November 1, 2001

/thread</body>
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      <body>Its the same concept as in smileys on conveyers...but most definately not a rip man. I can understand being protective of your work, but thats not even close besides smileys on conveyers.

Look at all the skulls,zombies,skateboard designs and all those designs are similiar but not rips.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;skull with hair said:&lt;/cite&gt; it is definitely possible that he saw yours, but equally possible he didn't. either way it isn't a rip, just a different take on a concept. well done too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I must say it's the same idea/concept but I don't think it's a rip. We wouldn't really know unless the artist admits something (or not). If he says he hasn't seen your work then you can't do anything bout it. Technically you can't rip ideas/concepts because you can't copyright them. It's a sad reality. </body>
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      <body>it's not like this concept is an extraordinarily unique one in the first place...</body>
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