Exciting choice!
Obamas camp has already released a message regarding her inexperience! Ridiculous, considering who its coming from.
Thoughts?
Exciting choice!
Obamas camp has already released a message regarding her inexperience! Ridiculous, considering who its coming from.
Thoughts?
147 Comments
Universitee Apparel said 2 months ago
Im really excited for this. Plus she looks pretty attractive for an older woman. PALIN FTW.
RustyEight said 2 months ago
Unknown Alaskan who was a governor only like 3 years ago...
Its because shes female. Plain and simple. This election is all about appealing to the minorities and everyone else that elections usually ignore.
Time Without the E said 2 months ago
i cant hate his pick. Reason being this election will actually have change in it for once! Not a 50 year old white male taking office. It will either be a woman or a black in office and thats a step in the right direction if you ask me!
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
Unknown Alaskan?
as opposed to unknown new senator from Illinois?
Im just saying experience isnt something that can be argued by either side.
Sure Biden adds experience to the Obama ticket, but McCain trumps that with his own.
She is actually an impressive candidate, ethical reformer, and 'regular american'
And I dont doubt for a second that her gender is being used to pull in all of those bitter Hillary supporters, but I dont care. If that what it takes to block Obama, good on it.
kyleisez said 2 months ago
heck yes she is, wow
dsprad said 2 months ago
Definitely an interesting choice. I think the fact that she is a woman had a lot to do with it, but she seems pretty legit.
dsprad said 2 months ago
And shes hot.
Visual Singularities said 2 months ago
VPILF?
or
McCain/MILF '08
skull with hair said 2 months ago
In 1984, after winning the Miss Wasilla contest earlier that year, Palin finished second in the Miss Alaska beauty pageant
Universitee Apparel said 2 months ago
whattttt thats hilarious / awesome.
RustyEight said 2 months ago
All Im saying is, its no longer about who has experience or not. Its about appealing to groups of people through gender and race... and it makes me sick.
skull with hair said 2 months ago
i feel like McCain screwed his chances with this pick
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
i think its a little deeper than that. sure thats a big factor, but there are real issues involved.
yes, there are people voting for Barack b/c hes black...but a lot of people are voting for him because of what he stands for and what he claims he will do.
same goes for McCain/Palin.
Joey said 2 months ago
her sons name is elvis...she has no sense of judgement at all.
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
SWH, why do you think that? Just curious, not trolling
godmachine said 2 months ago
do you think the sole reason he picked her was to get the 'womens' vote that they seem to think Obama lost when not choosing Hilary?
JoshInvincible said 2 months ago
So true.
Kevin Doom said 2 months ago
This was some evil genius shit on McCains part. Hes already released commercials trying to persuade disgruntled Hillary supporters to back him. I honestly think thats all this pick was meant to do. Frustrating, but brilliant.
But yea, a little hypocritical too.
Im curious too. I think this will help him a lot.
dsprad said 2 months ago
Her sons name is Track?
Joey said 2 months ago
she has 5 kids...according to cnn
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
nope, not the sole reason.
a huge part of it.
but she also appeals to 'regular americans' with her story...mother of 5, rose from the middle class, blah blah blah.
im just saying, her selling point is not one dimensional.
a big factor is also is that she is uber-conservative, which brings all of the conservatives disenchanted with McCain back to his side.
so yes a woman, but also a strong conservative, which the party needs.
RustyEight said 2 months ago
I wouldnt say the sole reason, but even political analysts for the republicans said that the party really wanted a women running for VP, and that cuts down your choices by a lot.
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
also, anyone whining that mccain pulled a cheap one just to get the women on board...
its politics! what do you expect! everything is done/everyone is chosen for reasons like this!
Kevin Doom said 2 months ago
I dig. Theyre playing to win. Its why I hate politics.
edword said 2 months ago
Hmmm... It seems a bit of a shell game trying to get the Hillary vote, just throw a woman in there and well take those votes. If I was a women who voted for Hillary I would be insulted, the two of them are polar opposites policy wise. The only thing they have in common is they are both women.
I think the MILF thing is not a plus for them either, a 44 year old former beauty queen would be next in line to be prez ? You think that will fly with the voter?
She may be a very strong candidate, but they only have 10 weeks to make that point.
derekdeal said 2 months ago
we may get our first female president afterall
Buck Nasty said 2 months ago
Wow this a move of desperation. Maybe my cynicism is wrong and the dems might win this one.
justinryan said 2 months ago
Well who knows the struggles of the average american person than the Governor of Alaska!?
skull with hair said 2 months ago
basically McCain is going to lose, we know that much by now. but i think he would have actually performed better with Romney.
1. she is a horrible speaker (im listening to her now)
2. she will not pull as many hillary voters as you think, she is strongly anti abortion rights and that shit will not fly as well as you think it will with hillarys base. you have to remember that hillarys voters are democrats not republicans, and to say that they were just voting for hillary because she was a woman is insulting. she is an impressive candidate.
3. now the sum of total experience shifts way in obama/bidens favor.
4. we know from the obama/clinton race that america is much more weary of a woman in office than a black man. i think its safe to say that a large percentage of older republicans really dont like this choice by McCain.
McCain was running on experience, now he is trying to run on "change". if Obama and McCain are in a race to see who is the "most changiest" Barack is the guaranteed win.
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
i wouldnt say its desperation. beyond her womanhood, she stands for a lot of things important to conservative voters.
as a conservative, I wasnt too happy with McCain being the Republican nominee, but Im much more comfortable with the ticket with her on board...and not because she is a woman.
so, just for the record, her inclusion on the Republican ticket does have the power to impress men as well!
Time Without the E said 2 months ago
how? The biggest undecided voters are middle aged women. This is a smart choice to get the Hillary voters to vote Republican and the independent women voters. She has no ties with Bush and shes actually done a lot of work to stop drilling in Alaska.
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
the one thing i disagree with is the experience shift. i think experience hasnt shifted but instead become a non-point.
biden & mccain have experience, obama & palin dont. so neither party can really pull that card anymore.
Kevin Doom said 2 months ago
1. dig
2. I agree, Hilary ruled. But, look how many of her supporters went to McCain purely out of spite. Hilarys and McCains policies are so different, so the only reason to go over to McCain was spite. Lamesville. I think most Hilary supporters will vote on the issues in the end and go with Obama, but there will still be those who vote for McCain for the wrong reasons. And now, with a female VP, those numbers will increase, however slightly.
3. dig
4. dig
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
ps - i would have prefered Romney as well
Randomentity said 2 months ago
sooooo um, Castle Crashers??
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
arent you at work?
derekdeal said 2 months ago
so good!
its like golden axe on acid
skull with hair said 2 months ago
oh we know you would love that mormon bastard
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
dude, you need to play with randomentity and i!
we beat it last night but still have a shit ton to unlock
regardless, that game is killer. most fun ive had with a video game in a good while
skull with hair said 2 months ago
well dont forget that hillary isnt out of the picture, she will be fiercely campaigning for Obama. she will be urging her voters that there is no way they can vote for McCain/Palin.
do you think there is anyone in the world that would hate Palin ending up as VP more than Hillary Clinton?!
Buck Nasty said 2 months ago
no one said it yet but....
MONDALE DID IT!
edword said 2 months ago
I think this will put a fire under Hillary to tell her base to back obama even more.
Kevin Doom said 2 months ago
Haha, thats true. My only beef is that this is dependent on people making a rational, logical decision. I have little faith in that. Hopefully youre right.
Elks said 2 months ago
from what Ive heard she doesnt take shit from anyone. Still think McCains kinda screwed unless he does something epic at the RNC.
jaynajaynajayna said 2 months ago
n00dz
skull with hair said 2 months ago
he might fart, thats about it.
RustyEight said 2 months ago
Or die
edword said 2 months ago
so true! I dont think McCain picking her is a slam Dunk for Obama, she may help get the GOP base to come out and vote.
But really a beauty queen VP?
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
how is the beauty thing queen at all an issue?
Kevin Doom said 2 months ago
I dont care about the beauty queen thing, but come on, a communications/journalism major?! Haha, I kid, I kid.
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
i think the REALL issue with Palin is that she hunts moose!
need we any further information!? elect that woman!
mbradyclark said 2 months ago
McCain/Granddaughter '08
hehe
jaynajaynajayna said 2 months ago
I dont think she really brings anything new to the ticket for McCain, maybe besides the fact that she is a woman. And shes super fucking American.
Also she plays the flute
isaboa said 2 months ago
this is all very bizarre
I know Sarah - I am one of the 6000 people in her home town wasilla -
I think it was a great choice and I know Sarah - she is gonna eat up biden in the debate - sucker him into attack then make him look like a fool and bully
just wait
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
she doesnt bring anything NEW, she just brings back the die-hard conservatives who were walking away from mccain.
oh and i guess the wimmenz too.
and the flute playas
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
the media told me there were 9200 people in your town! WERE BEING LIED TO!!!
skull with hair said 2 months ago
you couldnt be more wrong. trust me, if YOU are aware that Biden being too aggressive will make him look like a bully then i am positive the obama campaign is well aware and equipped with a strategy to combat it.
he will go at her on the issues and simply out class her.
Danimal! said 2 months ago
the thing about McCain is that 30 years ago. He would be running as a democrat, and Barack would be running as some extreme leftist third party canidate. I think McCain is going to get a lot of the old timey democrat vote. Adding Palin only sweetens the pot for him as it lets him appeal to conservatives at the same time.
Buck Nasty said 2 months ago
QUICK! To the U.S. Census Bureau!
*insert Census logo doing the batman in and out thing*
edword said 2 months ago
Its not an issue with me. It wouldnt have mattered who he pick. I just think she doesnt scream VP.
Ill I said they have 10 week get across who she is, that could be a tall order.
shmokey said 2 months ago
If I hear one more person say Obama is such a great speaker and he motivates me Im going to puke. You know who else was a great public speaker? Hitler. Im not comparing the 2 by ANY means but being a great speaker means nothing. "Hes saying nothing but he sounds oh so good!"
I would strongly argue that Obama is NOT an eloquent speaker when hes off script. When he has to think on his feet, hes really not so slick. Take that big public meeting at that super church a few weeks ago. He tanked!
p.s. PLEASE spell lose with 1 "o". Big pet peeve.
isaboa said 2 months ago
I made a mixtape for her babyshower - it was lullaby versions of the ramones, sex pistols, black flag and others - she has great taste in music -
RustyEight said 2 months ago
I want to hate her so much... but its getting harder and harder
isaboa said 2 months ago
you guys just wait - no one knows how slick she is -
well some folks know -
(about the census, the numbers vary depending on how you look at them) the mat-su valley is quite large, bigger than most states - but the town of wasilla is quite small)
Kevin Doom said 2 months ago
Thats what she said!
...see what I did there?
ReganSupreme said 2 months ago
Youve got this backyards dude.. She supports drilling in ANWR.
skull with hair said 2 months ago
BOOOOOYA MOTHAFUCKA!!!!!
RustyEight said 2 months ago
You caught me
isaboa said 2 months ago
ANWR needs drilling
I have stood on the edge of oblivion - millions of acres of tundra dessert - nobody gets it, the ads and the talking heads are full of shit - maybe Sarah can help get the info straight
landshark said 2 months ago
I think most voters are aware that this is a ploy to pull in support from the middle aged women, who are a major undecided category.
As SWH said, the anti-abortion will not sit well with this group. And Hillary backing her party (which is backing Obama, though Im not so certain either her or Bill want to vote for him) will likely keep her supporters in favor of the democratic ticket. I think until November 4th, it will seem as though Hillary is still running for president.
The most ballots posted are from old republicans, and they will be showing up in large numbers this year no doubt. They will not be excited to see Palin on the ticket but theyll still go McCain regardless, and theyll reason it, "well, McCain has got to combat Obama somehow, so I guess its okay." And essentially they are right, but Its a bummer we dont get the best candidates because of that.
skull with hair said 2 months ago
in all fairness, you are a talking head.
...see what i did there?
isaboa said 2 months ago
i am a typing hauer
big difference
skull with hair said 2 months ago
yeah it sucks because McCain talked so much shit about how "Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign". the selection of Palin shows clearly that McCain cares more about winning a political campaign than doing what is best for america. she is in no way prepared to take over as president of the united states if/when McCain dies.
i was speaking of your avatar
isaboa said 2 months ago
so was I bro
derekdeal said 2 months ago
talking rudger
Wringer Tee said 2 months ago
Isnt this a stop-gap? What we really need are new sources of energy. Stop feeding the addiction.
derekdeal said 2 months ago
i think this is a pretty imaginative choice for the gop though i dont think its going to be enough to sway middle of the road voters. If i hadnt have read this McCain interview with TIME, i may have been swayed a bit, but it seems like the republicans have a tight grip on their candidate. Looks as if McCain does win we are going to get more of the same tight lipped, relax were the deciders, type of relationship with the media and the american people. Hes sounding more like Bush everyday.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1836909,00.html?xid=rss-politics-cnn
isaboa said 2 months ago
when you research the alternative fuels - you will find negatives just like the downside to oil
e.g. biofuel causing food prices to skyrocket and less food in general for the worlds mouths
Obviously the future is in more renewable energy sources - no-one argues that - but for the time being we are getting screwed at the pump - I pay almost $6 for a gallon of diesel and the ONLY reason our prices are so ridiculous is because of the blind stubborness of those who think they know whats best for all of us.
I just dont understand how we can ignore a huge import problem when we could solve it within our borders -
IMHOP
landshark said 2 months ago
Yeah, It seems backward doesnt it. If Obama really is inexperienced, he has experience backing him and in a tragic incident we still have experience. McCain is the experience and as you said, if he checks out, were left with someone that is NOT prepared for the job.
It certainly takes away the argument the Republicans have about inexperience.
However, I really dont think McCain is that outrageously experienced with the modern world. The man doesnt know how to send an email and stated he doesnt want to learn. Now, obviously being able to send an E-Mail doesnt qualify or disqualify someone or else we would all be running. But it tells me that McCain is not going to want to learn a lot of vital things that have changed in the past two decades and WILL be vital to him running the country from 2009 to 2012. On a side note, I find it annoying when people say "the world is changing." That fact is the world has ALREADY changed.
In McCains favor I will say he has a more tenacious attitude, which is important with foreign relations. I love that Obama wants to open up more dialogue and bring more soldiers home, but I want to see him sink his feet into the ground a little more. Hes been a fairly friendly candidate thus far to McCain, and although he should not become a bully, he needs to become more than a voice. The debates are going to be incredible, and I suspect Obama will make this change at that time. For all of you that dont know where Obama stands on issues, you have no excuse not to tune in.
ReganSupreme said 2 months ago
Im sure this has already been said 1000 times in here, but drilling there isnt going to make a huge difference. It can take years or even a decade before we see any significant return, and when we do it will be a small percentage of what we use.
What youre suggesting we do is place a very small band-aid on a very huge wound. Drilling isnt going to solve the problem.
cajun metal said 2 months ago
for REAL, obviously its more important to be able to give a good speech about policy than it is to make good policy.
Im as amazed as Doc Brown in Back To The Future when he finds out Ronald Reagan is President in '85.
Was it someone else here that said even Hitler, Lenin and Mao gave good speeches? Its an easy formula: a public wanting change + awesome speeches about the change they want = speech maker for President/every post about Obama on Emptees.
Speaking of a comparisons to Hitler, check out this article about the situation in Georgia and McCain.
isaboa said 2 months ago
right - so 7 years ago when we could have tapped ANWR and did not because of bullshit politics is to blame for our problems now
Its true - ANWR would only provide about 5-10% of the nations oil demands - small potatoes, lets just keep getting it from the middle east
derekdeal said 2 months ago
there was a point in his speech where he said that McCain said hed follow Bin Laden into hell, but in actuality wouldnt even follow him into his cave. I thought that was pretty ballsy.
Ouchless said 2 months ago
Or lets invest in finding new alternatives. Yeah?
dcastle8183 said 2 months ago
oh lord, good thing this wasnt Ol' Tricky Bill Clintons VP. He wouldnt be able to help himself. Shwing!
Hope this works fo McCain. Cant say I saw this coming.
Kevin Doom said 2 months ago
Not all biofuels. Technologies are coming out which can create ethanol from sugar cane waste, construction waste (sawdust and such), orange pulp -- things that would normally just be thrown away. I think making ethanol out of corn makes no sense, but this new stuff has promise.
derekdeal said 2 months ago
martin luther king, abraham lincoln and president kennedy were pretty good public speakers too
isaboa said 2 months ago
investing in alternatives is a GIVEN - of course we will pursue that - it is just not something that can be developed and implemented over night - IN THE MEAN TIME is what I am all about
isaboa said 2 months ago
Agreed - they have many decades before they can make it make sense -
qhubban2 said 2 months ago
isaboa i know ur threadless player too LOL"
Ouchless said 2 months ago
I dont think itll take decades. If they can convert diesel engines to run on vegetable oil now, Im quite positive were not that far from an actual solution.
Randomentity said 2 months ago
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Well kill shit and get mad l00tz
landshark said 2 months ago
I agree and Id like to see more of that.
isaboa said 2 months ago
threadless had me at hello
quakerninja said 2 months ago
noodz?
cajun metal said 2 months ago
Exactly. They cancel each other out. Its not a good reason to be fawning over anybody.
As for ANWR. Weve got rigs in the Gulf of Mexico right now that arent 'turned on' right now. My dads a captain on rig supply boats and he told me of two that theyre bringing back into production. Dont know if isaboa is being sarcastic or what but ANWR wouldnt even be a temporary fix at this point. There wasnt a reason to tap them 7 years ago and even if we did theyd only just now be producing if built at all, and that wouldve been some seriously suspicious forsight considering the direction we went (Iraq) after 9/11 also only 7 years ago.
Master_Control said 2 months ago
Anyone who is an advocate of McCain is an advocate of douche baggedry.
Bottom line.
Thats all I have to say.
RustyEight said 2 months ago
Any oil reserve or new rig the start tapping or put into place (especially the new off shore ones they want to make) wont make an immediate dent in the oil crisis. Actually, we would only start seeing the fruits from it 7 years after they were put into place. 7 years... thats nowhere near the immediate help we need.
Universitee Apparel said 2 months ago
that was immature. everyone here is having a respectable debate/discussion. dont ruin it with something like this. that was not needed.
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
jaynajaynajayna said 2 months ago
Yea, the scientific community has quickly realized that corn ethanol is not the way to go, though right now it would be the easiest technology wise. The higher food prices have already been felt, there were riots in Mexico about the rising cost of the tortilla, (which is you know, kind of hilarious though its terrible that I think so)
Obama just realizes that we are spending money a lot of places that can be spent elsewhere, for instance he plans on funding certain education programs by getting rid of certain unnecessary tax breaks for corporations and the rich, and telling NASA to chill out about going to Mars for awhile. Thats the type of planning that needs to go into research & implementation of alternative fuel sources.
derekdeal said 2 months ago
thats so photoshoped, they are clearly pointing at the future
SentimentalNate said 2 months ago
Im sure she knows more about drilling there than anyone, shes governor of that state for crying out loud.
Better Biden then Obama himself. Anyone could outclass Obama in a debate. Note: I didnt say outspeak, or outmarket, because to be quite honest, those are the only things that have brought him this far: Great speeches, and amazing marketing.
Shes a lot more conservative than McCain, which means she brings quite a lot. Unless your liberal, in which case youre probably mad because it means McCain actually has a shot now.
What does his religion have to do with anything? Why isnt anyone elses religious criticized either?
jaynajaynajayna said 2 months ago
I love that she hunts but wants to save all the babies. I just think its a pretty translucent move on McCains part and I think the middle age women will see that too, and probably are:
"Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America. But it turns out the women of America arent finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all," Palin said in her speech.
The remark brought a mixed reaction from the Republican crowd; some women cheered, but there was also some low-pitched groaning and booing. (cnn.com)
skullface said 2 months ago
"I am a true-blue Hillary supporter, but I am sure Hillary did not mean to put 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling so that a pro-life, pro-gun, home-schooling nobody from the frozen tundra of Alaska could slide in. Go Obama."
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/29/mccain-vp-pick-younger-less-experienced-than-obama/#more-1404
skull with hair said 2 months ago
BOOOOYA!!!
jaynajaynajayna said 2 months ago
duh duh duh!
DeMauriDa05 said 2 months ago
Obama is gonna win hands down...no use in talking about it...just wait it out..
ghostforhire said 2 months ago
Im thinking the GOP is just playing catch-up with what the Dems have been promoting - historic change.
Obama... Hilary... I mean not once did I believe I would ever see a woman or a black man as a viable Presidential contender in my life time. But the Dems put it out there and it became very evident to the world that they are serious about some kind of change - even if its just a race/sex issue.
Now the GOP... well... they are just jumping on the bandwagon. McCains pick is just coming off as a very transparent attempt at "lets find a woman to get the Hilary swing voters. And make sure shes hella hot to compete in celebrity against Obama. See if we can get her in Maxim."
Im not a Dem. Im not a Rep. America went up for sale 35 years ago and its going to take more than just a new President to fix it.
mitchbones said 2 months ago
What about trying to get creationism in schools? Trying to fire a cop cause he broke up with her sister? Not knowing exactly what vp does? Pure pandering to women
ReganSupreme said 2 months ago
We get about 17% of our oil from the Middle East. Drilling in ANWR to save us barely 5% doesnt solve our problem.
RustyEight said 2 months ago
17% its more than that buddy. Now, we import more than 50% of our oil.
beth said 2 months ago
I need to buy a tv....getting my political news from the internet makes me feel...non republican
mitchbones said 2 months ago
enjoy your fox news propaganda machine. Only news on tv worth watching these days is Keith Olberman/jon Stewart /colbert
explodingtoes said 2 months ago
L....freakin'....O....L
stewart and colbert are entertaining, but olberman is an idiot
Shirts on Sale said 2 months ago
ISABOA -- What do you think? Any ground to the rumors that Palins youngest is actually her daughters? I ask you because you saw her before and after the birth I assume.
Universitee Apparel said 2 months ago
jon stewart went to my high school.
Shirts on Sale said 2 months ago
And I worked with his mom as a consultant...so whats your point?
godmachine said 2 months ago
china has bought 70% of american debt.
the debt?
climbing on average at $1.92 billion per day since September 28, 2007!
just to help you understand how much a billion is:
A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive
Ameeee said 2 months ago
Yo, do women really