What's up guys? Quick question for ya as I'm not quite sure how I feel about this and I value your professional opinions... Ok... So, You have a design. You put it up for sale and someone expresses interest. They ask you to integrate their brand name in some way ( not a logo, just the brand name worked in to the design itself ) and ultimately purchase the design. Months and months go by and one day you get an email out of the blue from said client requesting the PRE-brand-name-integrated PSD file so they can sub the design to Threadless in hopes of winning some sort of profit back since they never did anything with it. How would <b><i>you</b></i> feel about this? 2009-09-10T15:49:35-04:00 16 2009-09-10T15:18:10-04:00 true 0 75731 false false 1498 1498 1 2009-11-21T16:27:48-05:00 271 <img src="http://rosswhite.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/mr_horse_as_a_gi.png" /> 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:19:42-04:00 2413161 1146 2009-09-10T15:19:42-04:00 if they've purchased the design, did you release the psd ? if so, why cant they simply edit it and submit it. very weird situation. 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:19:51-04:00 2413171 32291 2009-09-10T15:19:51-04:00 lul at them? 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:20:05-04:00 2413181 997 2009-09-10T15:20:05-04:00 absolutely not 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:20:09-04:00 2413191 67 2009-09-10T15:20:09-04:00 wow that's....huh 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:21:09-04:00 2413201 11937 2009-09-10T15:21:09-04:00 You say good one mate but no deal. You put on a comp and if you win you give him half of what he paid. If that´s a no go hold onto it and use it on something other than a tee. You don´t owe him anything so he should be greatful for the favour. 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:21:17-04:00 2413221 2879 2009-09-10T15:21:17-04:00 So someone submitting someone else's art to threadless. Isnt that not allowed ? 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:21:57-04:00 2413251 9211 2009-09-10T15:23:06-04:00 <blockquote><cite>mikedot said:</cite> if they've purchased the design, did you release the psd ? if so, why cant they simply edit it and submit it. very weird situation.</blockquote> Because the .PSD file sent was POST-brand-name-integration. There's really no way to edit it out short of erasing most of it an redoing a majority of the linework. 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:22:57-04:00 2413261 1498 2009-09-10T15:22:57-04:00 its not his artwork, its yours. You sold him a limited license to reproduce the artwork on a tee shirt. Even if there's no agreement, the art is legally yours under current copyright law. Feel free to politely tell him where to shove it. 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:22:58-04:00 2413271 1146 2009-09-10T15:22:58-04:00 Also, you're under no obligation to feel guilty or attempt to recoup lost money because your client didnt market the design. Tell him to eat shit. 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:23:49-04:00 2413291 32291 2009-09-10T15:23:49-04:00 Yeah, I dont know that he knows how strange a request it is. He didn't come at me all rude-like or demanding so I don't think we'd have any sort of problem over it. Again, I've just never come into this situation before and wanted to gauge some responses before proceeding. Thanks again Emptees! you never let me down ;] 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:27:12-04:00 2413351 1498 2009-09-10T15:30:44-04:00 <blockquote><cite>derekdeal said:</cite> its not his artwork, its yours. You sold him a limited license to reproduce the artwork on a tee shirt. Even if there's no agreement, the art is legally yours under current copyright law. Feel free to politely tell him where to shove it.</blockquote> Dereks got it right. He would actually be violating Threadless' Terms of Agreement by subbing it. Even threadless only buys a limited shirt production license from you, you still own the art and can produce alternative pieces (not Tees) with it. Long story short, Big NO GO! 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:28:08-04:00 2413381 12048 2009-09-10T15:28:08-04:00 this is crazy. you should meet up with the guy and smack him smart! 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:32:36-04:00 2413441 2861 2009-09-10T15:32:36-04:00 So...he wants to submit the artwork to Threadless basically under the pretense that he created it. Sounds silly 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:34:16-04:00 2413501 9002 2009-09-10T15:34:16-04:00 strange. 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:34:42-04:00 2413521 2991 2009-09-10T15:34:42-04:00 It is an odd request, even if you don't know whats up. But I'm willing to offer up the benefit of the doubt and assume he had no idea what he was really asking. I'm not insulted at all. Thanks for the input guys! 75731 Post 2009-09-10T15:49:35-04:00 2413821 1498 2009-09-10T15:49:35-04:00