Friend sent an interesting link/video it is short and sweet, but true I think.. http://vimeo.com/1465284 thought it may interest some.. and I think he has more stuff on his site.. jsut started browsing through it.. www.draplin.com anyway.. any thoughts? 2009-09-19T13:25:14-04:00 63 2009-09-10T15:46:14-04:00 true 0 75751 false false 2870 2870 1 2009-11-21T17:43:01-05:00 1398 i love everything that happens on that vimeo page 75751 Post 2009-09-10T15:52:24-04:00 2413871 67 2009-09-10T15:52:24-04:00 I loved it. Doing things with care and attention to detail. I approve. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T15:53:23-04:00 2413911 997 2009-09-10T15:53:23-04:00 holy crap, dude's site rules hard too. thanks for this. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T15:55:06-04:00 2413971 67 2009-09-10T15:55:06-04:00 agree 100% I am sick of seeing generic shit. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T15:55:50-04:00 2413991 9099 2009-09-10T15:55:50-04:00 the guys right,the original was nice the new sign looked terrible and poorly designed like a 15 minute job by someone whose just started learning graphics Dudes site does rule 75751 Post 2009-09-10T15:57:58-04:00 2414021 13042 2009-09-10T16:00:11-04:00 I like the cut of his jib. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:04:18-04:00 2414141 7093 2009-09-10T16:04:18-04:00 I want to see this documentary when it's done. Great find Killer Napkins. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:04:37-04:00 2414161 12157 2009-09-10T16:04:37-04:00 a man of my own heart... when I say this kinda stuff though it doesn't come off very well...but then again people are usually listening more to how you say something than what you say, it's only natural... there are so many shitty sign companies here in Missouri...it's pretty bad...no one gives two shits about quality, it's all about the benjamins... capitalism could destroy art if there isn't some sort of grass-roots movement that actually makes an impact 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:05:32-04:00 2414171 33471 2009-09-10T16:05:32-04:00 i sincerely hope i am as cool as this dude when i grow up. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:06:06-04:00 2414191 1106 2009-09-10T16:06:29-04:00 i figured you guys would appreciate this... I dig his dailys.. jsut finding some of the great raw graphic design.. are you from missouri of1000kings? I am... and I definitely know what you are talking about ha. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:07:42-04:00 2414221 2870 2009-09-10T16:07:42-04:00 <img src="http://www.draplin.com/pics/052808_cobra_dogs_logo.gif" /> this is a pretty sweet logo they did, the dudes work has a solid base to it. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:08:26-04:00 2414231 9099 2009-09-10T16:08:26-04:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> i sincerely hope i am as cool as this dude when i grow up.</blockquote> <blockquote><cite>DeadRight said:</cite> I like the cut of his jib.</blockquote> He reminds me of Frenden a lot :D 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:08:40-04:00 2414241 11937 2009-09-10T16:08:40-04:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> i sincerely hope i am as cool as this dude when i grow up.</blockquote> hah yeah.. this dude's outlook on graphic design reminded me of you 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:11:14-04:00 2414261 2870 2009-09-10T16:11:14-04:00 THIS .. .is awesome haha <img src="http://www.draplin.com/pics/merch_store_ad_031609.jpg" /> 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:13:54-04:00 2414301 2870 2009-09-10T16:13:54-04:00 ya KN...currently living in St Louis...looking for a way out...there are some great people in MO, but overall the state is pretty backwards and there isn't a lot of opportunity in the creative fields btw, thanks for the link, it made my day 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:16:50-04:00 2414351 33471 2009-09-10T16:16:50-04:00 Yeah that video sums up current America for me. In California I see beautiful old diners and houses torn down for bullshit crapshit. Take heed USA, you will never ever have heritage if you keep destroying your architecture and design. Rant over. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:17:59-04:00 2414371 2991 2009-09-10T16:17:59-04:00 America is about wasting resources...it's like Brave New World or something...the more you consume the higher your standing in the culture.. and you can't waste resources without tearing down great old buildings and putting up new wastes of space... 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:19:37-04:00 2414411 33471 2009-09-10T16:19:37-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Killer Napkins said:</cite> THIS .. .is awesome haha <img src="http://www.draplin.com/pics/merch_store_ad_031609.jpg" /></blockquote> i totally want that hat, keychain and the pens. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:20:07-04:00 2414421 9099 2009-09-10T16:20:07-04:00 <blockquote><cite>of1000kings said:</cite> ya KN...currently living in St Louis...looking for a way out...there are some great people in MO, but overall the state is pretty backwards and there isn't a lot of opportunity in the creative fields btw, thanks for the link, it made my day</blockquote> heh youre telling me... I am also in STL... i Have joined an art group called ArtDimensions, if you have heard of it... they are pretty rad people, trying to really make the STL art scene pop.. though you are correct.. not a lot of opportunity at all.. I just hope ArtD and other artists can help STL grow.. I would like to help as much as I can until I make my way out ha. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:20:40-04:00 2414431 2870 2009-09-10T16:20:40-04:00 this would fit to the new direction. nice. <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Abriss_Plattenbau_Rostock_Evershagen_1.jpg" /> 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:24:17-04:00 2414481 9980 2009-09-10T16:24:17-04:00 thanks KN...i've been meaning to sign up for AD for a while now...the networking meetings would seem to be a great place to get involved.. I was supposed to be showing some drawings at Art Outside in maplewood starting tomorrow but I had to withdraw due to financial constraints...bummed.. are you going to be checking out AO? I'm still gonna go, they usually have some great artists there, and of course some great beer... 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:25:17-04:00 2414501 33471 2009-09-10T16:25:17-04:00 FUCKING Sedalia Missouri. That town is old school farm town awesome. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:30:21-04:00 2414591 2186 2009-09-10T16:30:21-04:00 <blockquote><cite>of1000kings said:</cite> thanks KN...i've been meaning to sign up for AD for a while now...the networking meetings would seem to be a great place to get involved.. I was supposed to be showing some drawings at Art Outside in maplewood starting tomorrow but I had to withdraw due to financial constraints...bummed.. are you going to be checking out AO? I'm still gonna go, they usually have some great artists there, and of course some great beer...</blockquote> Yeah it is.. I have been meeting a lot of awesome STL artists and been getting into a lot of live painting through them. Plus they are working on a really awesome gallery/venue/bar/artist studio space on Cherokee.. when it is all set to go, it should be an awesome spot to hang. hmm this is the first time i heard of Art Outside.. but I most likely will check it out.. sounds like a good time.. You should hit up Taste Of St. Louis.. that should be a good event.. I am going to be doing Art Wars there.. it'll be a good time.. coming up in october. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:32:09-04:00 2414651 2870 2009-09-10T16:32:09-04:00 taste...dude has it 75751 Post 2009-09-10T16:33:05-04:00 2414701 1146 2009-09-10T16:33:05-04:00 That guy is awesome. Really makes you feel what he is passionate about. And I completely agree. I looooooove old 50's and 60's motel signs. Absolutely classic American design. There's a lot of them in my town. I hope they continue to stick around. There's so many people that churn out that kind of half-assed design crap. I personally can't believe people pay for that stuff. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T17:02:21-04:00 2415231 8948 2009-09-10T17:07:36-04:00 I've seen this before...and now I'm going to see it again. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T17:04:00-04:00 2415241 12325 2009-09-10T17:04:00-04:00 His view is great and his work is great. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T17:04:14-04:00 2415261 9211 2009-09-10T17:04:14-04:00 Yeah this stuff pisses me off so much...I was just telling my girlfriend the toughest thing about me working in this industry is actually being creative. The problem is ignorant business owners that dont do their homework or no what they want. They dont appreciate the creative industry at all, they just trust some old dude with a degree saying this will cost you so and so and this is how it should look. Im with this guy, lets take it back! 75751 Post 2009-09-10T17:49:07-04:00 2415921 537 2009-09-10T17:49:07-04:00 This dude is my idol. His work is fantastic. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T18:02:44-04:00 2416131 7196 2009-09-10T18:02:44-04:00 that sucks for that hotel 75751 Post 2009-09-10T18:03:05-04:00 2416141 38321 2009-09-10T18:03:05-04:00 I feel like this was posted a while back, and I watched it, and I loved it... thanks, now I'm gonna watch it again. Its soo great. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T18:05:34-04:00 2416171 600 2009-09-10T18:05:34-04:00 the businesspersons may be ignorant (in this regard), but it's up to us in the creative field to educate them... we need to figure out a better way to get the word out..to make creativity and brilliant design a bigger part of American culture.. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T18:20:09-04:00 2416331 33471 2009-09-10T18:20:09-04:00 <blockquote><cite>of1000kings said:</cite> the businesspersons may be ignorant (in this regard), but it's up to us in the creative field to educate them... we need to figure out a better way to get the word out..to make creativity and brilliant design a bigger part of American culture..</blockquote> I agree but how do we do that? Start a graphic design union dedicated to revamping american arts? *Also the main problem is the corporate/professional type design, those are the people that dont get it. I think America is on point in a lot of other types of design such as fashion, music, traditional arts and so on. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T18:53:44-04:00 2416901 537 2009-09-10T18:53:44-04:00 i think the lesson here beyond the fact that this guy rules is that probably most of us are in the wrong business. opening next week, miles to go signs. starting at $15k, offering feast of flesh and bleeding cowboy sign designs with stock vector art. 75751 Post 2009-09-10T19:06:16-04:00 2417141 1271 2009-09-10T19:06:16-04:00 Nice, I went to school near Sedalia! 75751 Post 2009-09-10T19:10:45-04:00 2417191 5501 2009-09-10T19:10:45-04:00 Drunk eBaying FTW! 75751 Post 2009-09-10T19:49:57-04:00 2417741 7984 2009-09-10T19:49:57-04:00 <blockquote><cite>derekdeal said:</cite> taste...dude has it</blockquote> 75751 Post 2009-09-10T19:56:03-04:00 2417851 2691 2009-09-10T19:56:03-04:00 I saw this a while back, seriously this makes me angry and sad at the same time. I agree with Wotto, America's heritage is doomed. :( 75751 Post 2009-09-10T20:44:32-04:00 2418461 3764 2009-09-10T20:44:32-04:00 I was looking over this site and it sucks to see a lot of the best designs are from other countries. 75751 Post 2009-09-11T10:02:17-04:00 2426471 537 2009-09-11T10:02:17-04:00 <blockquote><cite>labyrinth said:</cite> I feel like this was posted a while back, and I watched it, and I loved it... thanks, now I'm gonna watch it again. Its soo great.</blockquote> haha I know. I posted it at least once a long while back after I saw it on Fecal Face. 75751 Post 2009-09-17T16:32:15-04:00 2516511 2330 2009-09-17T16:32:15-04:00 the reason why this shit is happening is because design as a whole is looked down upon in this country, especially once you go off the coasts. most people think its a hobby, not an actual respectable career. and as such, less and less qualified people are teaching future generations, especially at public schools and lower cost private schools. im starting to think that the only place you can be nearly guaranteed to get a high quality design education is at well known design schools that cost a lot.. which is depressing. 75751 Post 2009-09-17T17:04:46-04:00 2516811 11896 2009-09-17T17:04:46-04:00 I like to tell people that the creative fields are for us people who like to work the hours of a doctor (which basically means we're never not working) but get paid like a garbage collector... there really is a lack of respect for the creative fields in our culture on the whole...how being an artist is any less relevant than someone selling insurance or some fund manager playing monopoly with 'fake' money I'll never know...but that's the way it is right now... we just have to figure out how to change things... 75751 Post 2009-09-17T17:15:56-04:00 2516951 33471 2009-09-17T17:15:56-04:00 btw about this draplin guy, hes the lead design i think of snowboard magazine. its laid out real nice, if you like to ride or just enjoy things that are fairly well designed you should all check it out. 75751 Post 2009-09-17T17:16:31-04:00 2516971 11896 2009-09-17T17:16:31-04:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> i sincerely hope i am as cool as this dude when i grow up.</blockquote> me too. been following draplin design co for ever. watch that video all the time. 75751 Post 2009-09-17T17:36:54-04:00 2517381 178 2009-09-17T17:36:54-04:00 im taking a graphic and web design class off campus in high school. today we learned the names of basic shapes. and the second year kids (its a two year class) dont know how to m ake transparencies. i have to agree that america is fucked 75751 Post 2009-09-17T17:37:35-04:00 2517411 38321 2009-09-17T17:38:08-04:00 when I think of america- I see those signs. when i buy trinkets and shit next year- it will be postcards of 50's motels and thier signs, mom and pop stores, all that great stuff. But will I get to see it all in person? 75751 Post 2009-09-17T18:10:18-04:00 2517781 2802 2009-09-17T18:10:18-04:00 <blockquote><cite>augie said:</cite> im taking a graphic and web design class off campus in high school. today we learned the names of basic shapes. and the second year kids (its a two year class) dont know how to m ake transparencies. i have to agree that america is fucked</blockquote> its amazing how many kids are already in their junior year of college (like myself..) who dont even know how to use photoshop/illustrator/indesign properly (unlike myself) and are studying to be a graphic designer! i mean yes, those programs are merely tools, but thats like a painter graduating art school not knowing how to use a paintbrush! at least schools seem to be focusing on the foundations of graphic design, especially (to some extent..) the history behind it. but design theory and history can only go so far when you have no drawing skills, painting skills, sculptural skills, or computer skills. there needs to be a better balance - either schools churn out 'mac monkeys' or people who have a decent knowledge of design but no hand skills in producing original work. 75751 Post 2009-09-18T01:38:01-04:00 2523891 11896 2009-09-18T01:38:01-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Godmachine said:</cite> when I think of america- I see those signs. when i buy trinkets and shit next year- it will be postcards of 50's motels and thier signs, mom and pop stores, all that great stuff. But will I get to see it all in person?</blockquote> ive lived here my whole life and come across a vintage sign maybe once or twice a year. unfortunately, mass chains of stores, hotels and restaurants have overtaken mom and pop shops that often had these quirky signs. the most depressing part of living in america (and perhaps other places.. dont know though) is the growing homogenization of our culture. i think the most scary part is our food. we have a ton of chains (applebees, fridays, ruby tuesdays, chilis, outback steakhouse, houlihans, chipotle grill, ect.) that pretty much serve almost the exact same food - like 85% of the menu is close to exact. 75751 Post 2009-09-18T01:46:06-04:00 2523971 11896 2009-09-18T01:46:06-04:00 I see shit like that all the time. The amount of bullshit design work done by little office shops are fucking outrageous. I live in Canada and here we have Macs convenience stores (kinda like a less awesome 7 eleven, although we have seven elevens as well) and I approached one somewhere in Calgary and was greeted with this giant backlit sign advertising their slushies. The add was a kid sipping a slushy, and in large uncreative unsplendor stood out the words "COLD SUCKS" in nothing other than Comic Sans font. long explanation for something not that intense, but either way its everywhere. My dad tried to get some company to design him a sign, and it was 10x worse than that sunrise motel sign. He near damn paid 2000$ for that sign...i saved the day though...kinda. 75751 Post 2009-09-18T01:46:56-04:00 2523991 51031 2009-09-18T01:46:56-04:00 i think the only way to save our country (or perhaps, after what thecount wrote, our continent) is for a design appreciation classes to be taught in highschools and mandatory to be passed to graduate. this way our culture doesnt go to complete shit. 75751 Post 2009-09-18T01:49:52-04:00 2524061 11896 2009-09-18T01:49:52-04:00 If you think about it. All the excellent "Nostalgic" design was done before computers were a dominate tool in the design process. It seems that computers have created the illusion that everyone can wake up one morning and became a designer. Therefore, Design/Designers are hardly seen as a precious commodity. 75751 Post 2009-09-18T02:23:23-04:00 2524291 6141 2009-09-18T02:23:23-04:00 As a graphic designer of signs etc, a lot of the problem is sign shops not employing designers and just getting anyone to do the designs up. Where I live our competitor undercuts our prices by huge amounts and supplies poor quality and poorly laid out designs for the most part. It falls apart and then they come to us, but that ugly sign or vehicle has been driving around town tainting the landscape. Some clients don't understand/value the graphic designer - a lot do not factor in the time it takes to put it together and only care about the face value price of the actual physical sign. As with any design field, often clients make 6 thousand revisions that end up butchering your initial layout (like the menu I did where they kept expecting me to find space for items everyone of the 6 revisions) or they just want something plain ugly. Like, you sit down and take a brief - and they want that orange sunset gradient, and it kills you having to design it, but it's what they want. Then there are the wannabe designers who have Microsoft Project or a cracked copy of Illustrator (who never outline their fonts and make me want to cry). You can't refine their design, because that's their final artwork. I personally think all towns should have some kind of set guidelines as to the signage that goes up, or something like that - because I see a lot of ugly crap and it is truly visual pollution. Even if I hate the style of something I'm designing, I still try my hardest to at least make sure it's as good as it's possibly going to look because it's out there and people are going to be looking at it every day. 75751 Post 2009-09-18T04:37:58-04:00 2525081 3005 2009-09-18T04:40:47-04:00 nice one amee. I dont consider myself a designer- I am no where near subtle enough to do design, i am a drawer- i draw stuff. but when I did design in Uni my lecturer told us that a designers job was basically %50 tyring to convince the client that the designer is right. 75751 Post 2009-09-18T04:46:43-04:00 2525161 2802 2009-09-18T04:47:34-04:00 me hugs ameeee 75751 Post 2009-09-18T05:49:45-04:00 2525471 506 2009-09-18T05:49:45-04:00 this is so crucial. thank you so fucking much. 75751 Post 2009-09-18T08:42:32-04:00 2526251 9035 2009-09-18T08:42:32-04:00 loved it 75751 Post 2009-09-18T09:02:22-04:00 2526411 1056 2009-09-18T09:02:22-04:00 thanks for sharing man 75751 Post 2009-09-18T09:27:44-04:00 2526721 10787 2009-09-18T09:27:44-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Ameeee said:</cite> As a graphic designer of signs etc, a lot of the problem is sign shops not employing designers and just getting anyone to do the designs up. Where I live our competitor undercuts our prices by huge amounts and supplies poor quality and poorly laid out designs for the most part. It falls apart and then they come to us, but that ugly sign or vehicle has been driving around town tainting the landscape. Some clients don't understand/value the graphic designer - a lot do not factor in the time it takes to put it together and only care about the face value price of the actual physical sign. As with any design field, often clients make 6 thousand revisions that end up butchering your initial layout (like the menu I did where they kept expecting me to find space for items everyone of the 6 revisions) or they just want something plain ugly. Like, you sit down and take a brief - and they want that orange sunset gradient, and it kills you having to design it, but it's what they want. Then there are the wannabe designers who have Microsoft Project or a cracked copy of Illustrator (who never outline their fonts and make me want to cry). You can't refine their design, because that's their final artwork. I personally think all towns should have some kind of set guidelines as to the signage that goes up, or something like that - because I see a lot of ugly crap and it is truly visual pollution. Even if I hate the style of something I'm designing, I still try my hardest to at least make sure it's as good as it's possibly going to look because it's out there and people are going to be looking at it every day.</blockquote> if you think signs are bad you should see the NYC subway ads... 90% are pure hideous shit. its awful. especially the ones on the trains themselves. 75751 Post 2009-09-18T13:09:05-04:00 2529411 11896 2009-09-18T13:09:05-04:00 i blame microsoft, if windows came bundled with quality fonts we wouldnt have this problem. (we probably would) 75751 Post 2009-09-18T13:14:40-04:00 2529461 1146 2009-09-18T13:14:40-04:00 This rocks!....so true...thanks for sharing. 75751 Post 2009-09-18T13:29:33-04:00 2529631 4344 2009-09-18T13:29:33-04:00 i love american bitch !!! 75751 Post 2009-09-18T13:39:15-04:00 2529821 41501 2009-09-18T13:39:15-04:00 Aaron Draplin is one of my favorite designers and this video is proof. 75751 Post 2009-09-19T12:53:48-04:00 2542491 6781 2009-09-19T12:53:48-04:00 <blockquote><cite>derekdeal said:</cite> i blame microsoft, if windows came bundled with quality fonts we wouldnt have this problem. (we probably would)</blockquote> true that... I am really sick of seeing Papyrus font used on everything ... 75751 Post 2009-09-19T13:25:14-04:00 2542921 2870 2009-09-19T13:25:14-04:00