asians are being hated here specially indos, tell me more about it. *their everywhere in emptees* 2009-09-14T02:45:48-04:00 37 2009-09-11T23:47:51-04:00 true 0 76261 false false 5167 9047 1 2009-11-21T14:26:52-05:00 1115 I think it is for the seemingly lack of respect for ones original artwork 76261 Post 2009-09-11T23:48:58-04:00 2437301 3021 2009-09-11T23:48:58-04:00 <a href="http://emptees.com/posts/67461-forum-bahasa-indonesia-everything-from-indonesia">http://emptees.com/posts/67461-forum-bahasa-indonesia-everything-from-indonesia</a> well apparantly not only do they rip artwork they rip thread ideas too. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T01:21:23-04:00 2437821 9543 2009-09-12T01:21:23-04:00 for the record, i love me some asians. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T01:28:59-04:00 2437921 11937 2009-09-12T01:28:59-04:00 <blockquote><cite>ShirtFight.com said:</cite> for the record, i love me some asians.</blockquote> Oh boy do I love me some Asians. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T01:41:18-04:00 2438011 11176 2009-09-12T01:41:18-04:00 well this one dude straight up riped bowser from paper mario, and just colored him different...and put it on a shirt, im not hating on hem but, but i agree they dont have respect for the artwork, they think they can put anything on a shirt and bam, $30 for sale 76261 Post 2009-09-12T10:36:24-04:00 2441131 10262 2009-09-12T10:36:24-04:00 Haha oh man... 76261 Post 2009-09-12T10:51:53-04:00 2441311 13225 2009-09-12T10:51:53-04:00 im kinda desapointed about this issue cuz you guys know im asian too but its kinda frutrating like some artist kinda disrepects another one. damn. then the ripping incidents are in large nowadays.... fuck it 76261 Post 2009-09-12T10:54:24-04:00 2441361 9047 2009-09-12T10:58:05-04:00 agreed, hopefully everyone will over come the hatred, and just love the art 76261 Post 2009-09-12T10:56:57-04:00 2441431 10262 2009-09-12T10:56:57-04:00 what i think it boils down to is this... there are a certain number of asian artists on this site who genuinely have talent, aj, nicolo, etc... but for every artist with talent, there seems to be about 20 kids who post rips, mindless shitty gore drawings, repost the rips, and then some more shitty line drawings. for business owners like myself, i have seen my work get ripped off extremely bad in asia, moreso than anywhere else in the world. it seems we see a flood of flickr / lj sites on here that are flat out reselling designs ripped right off of what is popular at emptees, and 99% of the time these sites are based out of asia. it isn't us being racist or anything, it is just fear of this site getting flooded with thieves / rippers. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T11:01:07-04:00 2441481 14 2009-09-12T11:01:07-04:00 <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> what i think it boils down to is this... there are a certain number of asian artists on this site who genuinely have talent, aj, nicolo, etc... but for every artist with talent, there seems to be about 20 kids who post rips, mindless shitty gore drawings, repost the rips, and then some more shitty line drawings. for business owners like myself, i have seen my work get ripped off extremely bad in asia, moreso than anywhere else in the world. it seems we see a flood of flickr / lj sites on here that are flat out reselling designs ripped right off of what is popular at emptees, and 99% of the time these sites are based out of asia. it isn't us being racist or anything, it is just fear of this site getting flooded with thieves / rippers.</blockquote> I agree with this 76261 Post 2009-09-12T11:05:04-04:00 2441521 9047 2009-09-12T11:05:04-04:00 <blockquote><cite>NICOLO NIMOR said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> what i think it boils down to is this... there are a certain number of asian artists on this site who genuinely have talent, aj, nicolo, etc... but for every artist with talent, there seems to be about 20 kids who post rips, mindless shitty gore drawings, repost the rips, and then some more shitty line drawings. for business owners like myself, i have seen my work get ripped off extremely bad in asia, moreso than anywhere else in the world. it seems we see a flood of flickr / lj sites on here that are flat out reselling designs ripped right off of what is popular at emptees, and 99% of the time these sites are based out of asia. it isn't us being racist or anything, it is just fear of this site getting flooded with thieves / rippers.</blockquote> I agree with this</blockquote> peace pipe 76261 Post 2009-09-12T11:08:26-04:00 2441571 10262 2009-09-12T11:08:26-04:00 <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> what i think it boils down to is this... there are a certain number of asian artists on this site who genuinely have talent, aj, nicolo, etc... but for every artist with talent, there seems to be about 20 kids who post rips, mindless shitty gore drawings, repost the rips, and then some more shitty line drawings. for business owners like myself, i have seen my work get ripped off extremely bad in asia, moreso than anywhere else in the world. it seems we see a flood of flickr / lj sites on here that are flat out reselling designs ripped right off of what is popular at emptees, and 99% of the time these sites are based out of asia. it isn't us being racist or anything, it is just fear of this site getting flooded with thieves / rippers.</blockquote> Well, nothing more to say than that. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T11:53:17-04:00 2442011 10311 2009-09-12T11:53:17-04:00 its not just asians, the site is becoming a flea market for shotty bargain bin designs and cheap knockoffs. Dobi touched on the reasons why the easterners are catching the majority of the heat but they arent the only ones at fault. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T12:33:07-04:00 2442631 1146 2009-09-12T12:33:07-04:00 <blockquote><cite>derekdeal said:</cite> its not just asians, the site is becoming a flea market for shotty bargain bin designs</blockquote> <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/412711/REDTEMPLATE.jpg" /> out of boredom..i come out of this design..thinking of different personalities put together..and wallah!! grab now..!! FOR SALE !! FOR SALE !! HIT ME AT mitch_dosdos@yahoo.com 76261 Post 2009-09-12T13:46:52-04:00 2443431 14 2009-09-12T13:46:52-04:00 Depressing. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T14:00:43-04:00 2443671 24821 2009-09-12T14:00:43-04:00 Just read this in the indonesia thread: <blockquote><cite>mumolabs said:</cite> Lets make emptees to be our home,.. Lets build the new image for Indonesia,.. Indonesia Rock!!</blockquote> Oh boy. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T14:47:42-04:00 2444071 25661 2009-09-12T14:47:42-04:00 in.emptees.com 76261 Post 2009-09-12T14:54:39-04:00 2444111 9208 2009-09-12T14:54:39-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Sam Montana said:</cite> Just read this in the indonesia thread: <blockquote><cite>mumolabs said:</cite> Lets make emptees to be our home,.. Lets build the new image for Indonesia,.. Indonesia Rock!!</blockquote> Oh boy.</blockquote> gahhhh 76261 Post 2009-09-12T20:37:21-04:00 2447171 9047 2009-09-12T20:37:21-04:00 <blockquote><cite>treyinstereo said:</cite> in.emptees.com</blockquote> please. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T20:44:05-04:00 2447231 14 2009-09-12T20:44:05-04:00 you shalt not covet your neighbors designs you shalt not steal! 76261 Post 2009-09-12T20:47:36-04:00 2447261 9047 2009-09-12T20:47:36-04:00 <blockquote><cite>treyinstereo said:</cite> in.emptees.com</blockquote> the indonesian emptees is called riptees.com lol 76261 Post 2009-09-12T20:49:48-04:00 2447321 9184 2009-09-12T20:49:48-04:00 <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> what i think it boils down to is this... there are a certain number of asian artists on this site who genuinely have talent, aj, nicolo, etc... but for every artist with talent, there seems to be about 20 kids who post rips, mindless shitty gore drawings, repost the rips, and then some more shitty line drawings. for business owners like myself, i have seen my work get ripped off extremely bad in asia, moreso than anywhere else in the world. it seems we see a flood of flickr / lj sites on here that are flat out reselling designs ripped right off of what is popular at emptees, and 99% of the time these sites are based out of asia. it isn't us being racist or anything, it is just fear of this site getting flooded with thieves / rippers.</blockquote> It only makes sense though, with 4 billion people and cheap labour everywhere it isn't hard to see why Asia is the place that the majority of rips are coming from. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T21:36:50-04:00 2447681 5289 2009-09-12T21:36:50-04:00 <blockquote><cite>khay said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> what i think it boils down to is this... there are a certain number of asian artists on this site who genuinely have talent, aj, nicolo, etc... but for every artist with talent, there seems to be about 20 kids who post rips, mindless shitty gore drawings, repost the rips, and then some more shitty line drawings. for business owners like myself, i have seen my work get ripped off extremely bad in asia, moreso than anywhere else in the world. it seems we see a flood of flickr / lj sites on here that are flat out reselling designs ripped right off of what is popular at emptees, and 99% of the time these sites are based out of asia. it isn't us being racist or anything, it is just fear of this site getting flooded with thieves / rippers.</blockquote> It only makes sense though, with 4 billion people and cheap labour everywhere it isn't hard to see why Asia is the place that the majority of rips are coming from.</blockquote> cuz we are the third world? 76261 Post 2009-09-12T21:40:29-04:00 2447711 9047 2009-09-12T21:40:29-04:00 <blockquote><cite>NICOLO NIMOR said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>khay said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> what i think it boils down to is this... there are a certain number of asian artists on this site who genuinely have talent, aj, nicolo, etc... but for every artist with talent, there seems to be about 20 kids who post rips, mindless shitty gore drawings, repost the rips, and then some more shitty line drawings. for business owners like myself, i have seen my work get ripped off extremely bad in asia, moreso than anywhere else in the world. it seems we see a flood of flickr / lj sites on here that are flat out reselling designs ripped right off of what is popular at emptees, and 99% of the time these sites are based out of asia. it isn't us being racist or anything, it is just fear of this site getting flooded with thieves / rippers.</blockquote> It only makes sense though, with 4 billion people and cheap labour everywhere it isn't hard to see why Asia is the place that the majority of rips are coming from.</blockquote> cuz we are the third world?</blockquote> Pretty much. I'm not being racist or anything either, I'm actually asian myself, just stating the facts. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T21:42:07-04:00 2447721 5289 2009-09-12T21:42:07-04:00 I don't think Asians are hated here. But there's been a lot of bad eggs lately. All they do is ruin our reputation. And it just so happens the majority of them come from Indonesia. There's a lot of talented asian dudes on here.. You, Flying Mouse, Radiomode, Tang, Roadkill3d.. People love 'em too! In my experience, most clothing line rippers I've found come from Thailand and usually end up being sold here in the Philippines. Most retailers here have no clue that they're selling ripped designs at all. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T22:09:22-04:00 2448011 1259 2009-09-12T22:09:22-04:00 <blockquote><cite>khay said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> what i think it boils down to is this... there are a certain number of asian artists on this site who genuinely have talent, aj, nicolo, etc... but for every artist with talent, there seems to be about 20 kids who post rips, mindless shitty gore drawings, repost the rips, and then some more shitty line drawings. for business owners like myself, i have seen my work get ripped off extremely bad in asia, moreso than anywhere else in the world. it seems we see a flood of flickr / lj sites on here that are flat out reselling designs ripped right off of what is popular at emptees, and 99% of the time these sites are based out of asia. it isn't us being racist or anything, it is just fear of this site getting flooded with thieves / rippers.</blockquote> It only makes sense though, with 4 billion people and cheap labour everywhere it isn't hard to see why Asia is the place that the majority of rips are coming from.</blockquote> Am I mistaken in thinking it has more to do with copyright laws (or the lack thereof) in Indonesia and Malaysia, and less to do with societal ills? I wonder how effective it would be for artists to track down their reps in Congress and the consulate for either of those countries here in the States for some sort of redress of grievances. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T22:46:01-04:00 2448281 2330 2009-09-12T22:51:15-04:00 yeah, right now i'm REALLY mad at bangkok. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T22:49:21-04:00 2448321 14 2009-09-12T22:49:21-04:00 @ Nicolo / Collision Theory: You know how us Filipinos tend to think down on ourselves and our fellowmen as a nation of copy-cats and rippers? Coming to this site really changes that notion for me. We're not the "gaya-gaya puto maya" people that we think we are anymore. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T22:55:55-04:00 2448401 24821 2009-09-12T22:55:55-04:00 Most of our stuff in Malaysia comes from Thailand and China, actually. Majority of the great tee prints come from Thailand, while everything else, from electronic items to dresses and even cars are from China. Locally, we are "kings" when it comes to bootlegged DVD's. The only way to stop piracy is through our education system, but hey, I'm pretty sure the education minister here watches pirated movies and dresses in his fancy but fake Ralph Lauren polo tee. We are not just up against rippers guys, we are up against a whole syndicate. 76261 Post 2009-09-12T23:33:50-04:00 2448641 303 2009-09-12T23:33:50-04:00 My take on this is pretty much similar to my theory on how to stop piracy in our Country (I am a Filipino). 1. If economy from our country (as well as other Asian 3rd world countries) will be better, piracy, ripping, etc. will be minimal - I believe it will also LESSEN stealing art since artists will now understand that they are able to sell "their own" designs. 2. If the original stuff would cost just a little more than the fakes (currently, the real thing is like 3-5 times the price of the fakes - and the quality of these fakes are not that bad all the time.) You see, if we have better economy I believe that people would tend to buy the original simply because THEY CAN - because they have the luxury to spend on the real stuff which unfortunately is not the situation for the majority of the people from where I live. Though there a bunch of people who can buy the real stuff here BUT they are not the majority. Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking down on us Filipinos but we all know our place isn't really the best economic place in the world. 76261 Post 2009-09-13T01:56:11-04:00 2449161 10367 2009-09-13T02:00:07-04:00 <blockquote><cite>killapinas said:</cite> My take on this is pretty much similar to my theory on how to stop piracy in our Country (I am a Filipino). 1. If economy from our country (as well as other Asian 3rd world countries) will be better, piracy, ripping, etc. will be minimal - I believe it will also LESSEN stealing art since artists will now understand that they are able to sell "their own" designs. 2. If the original stuff would cost just a little more than the fakes (currently, the real thing is like 3-5 times the price of the fakes - and the quality of these fakes are not that bad all the time.) You see, if we have better economy I believe that people would tend to buy the original simply because THEY CAN - because they have the luxury to spend on the real stuff which unfortunately is not the situation for the majority of the people from where I live. Though there a bunch of people who can buy the real stuff here BUT they are not the majority. Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking down on us Filipinos but we all know our place isn't really the best economic place in the world.</blockquote> People buy imitations because they're cheaper than the real thing. The quality, original stuff are get pricier to keep up with the pirated competition. It's a cycle that won't go away soon, I believe. But talking within Emptees borders, looking at these new stuff at the Tee section, it gives me new respect for our fellowmen. You know how most of us used to always criticize ourselves as a nation of copy-cats? Like I mentioned before, browsing this site makes you want to question that claim. 76261 Post 2009-09-13T02:16:20-04:00 2449291 24821 2009-09-13T02:23:10-04:00 Just my two cents. 76261 Post 2009-09-13T02:23:55-04:00 2449361 24821 2009-09-13T02:23:55-04:00 <blockquote><cite>uzi said:</cite> But talking within Emptees borders, looking at these new stuff at the Tee section, it gives me new respect for our fellowmen. You know how most of us used to always criticize ourselves as a nation of copy-cats? Like I mentioned before, browsing this site makes you want to question that claim.</blockquote> Yes, we are indeed criticized as copy-cats - our mainstream film industry for one is the worst. But here on Emptees, I'd have to agree - Filipino-wise, I think they are uploading nice designs. 76261 Post 2009-09-13T04:09:37-04:00 2449691 10367 2009-09-13T04:13:08-04:00 <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> what i think it boils down to is this... there are a certain number of asian artists on this site who genuinely have talent, aj, nicolo, etc... but for every artist with talent, there seems to be about 20 kids who post rips, mindless shitty gore drawings, repost the rips, and then some more shitty line drawings. for business owners like myself, i have seen my work get ripped off extremely bad in asia, moreso than anywhere else in the world. it seems we see a flood of flickr / lj sites on here that are flat out reselling designs ripped right off of what is popular at emptees, and 99% of the time these sites are based out of asia. it isn't us being racist or anything, it is just fear of this site getting flooded with thieves / rippers.</blockquote> i agree with this. 76261 Post 2009-09-13T05:16:12-04:00 2450031 10237 2009-09-13T05:16:12-04:00 some were trying to cash in and some steal images from artists and the overseas copywright laws get things complicated.. its like buying a bootleg R5 for a dollar overseas. i think indonesia was like one of the firsts kinda known for "Pirating" shirt designs. they do it to make money becasue there are people overseas who didnt know of our styles and want to cash in... hell there are american companies who go to japan, and rip them off too in designs. i've been ripped off 2 times in my life, and it sucked. but it taught me that if someone can't tell which one i put my heart into, vs the one they just try to copy... then they SHOULD be wearing the cheap knockoff. we all learn from someone, to develop our skills through years of practice. but when someone straight up copyies your work, your rendering of an idea. your solution to a problem... it hurts if they are doing it to make more money than you ended up doing. 76261 Post 2009-09-13T06:49:24-04:00 2450621 10321 2009-09-13T06:54:48-04:00 its not easy working hard woth your designs while the other one just tried to copy your distinct style.. fuck it. 76261 Post 2009-09-13T16:06:42-04:00 2455541 9047 2009-09-13T16:06:42-04:00 The issue here is, more than anything else, miscommunication coming from the lack of knowledge of English. 76261 Post 2009-09-14T02:45:48-04:00 2461901 5167 2009-09-14T02:46:26-04:00