...are a real brush and ink.
And I think you can expect more value / pencil work out of me, too.
This will take getting used to, but there are definite cognitive benefits with traditional work. Inteeeeresting.
...are a real brush and ink.
And I think you can expect more value / pencil work out of me, too.
This will take getting used to, but there are definite cognitive benefits with traditional work. Inteeeeresting.
35 Comments
ghostforhire said about 1 month ago
Damn, dude. Looks to me like you’ve been doing it for ages. As always, your stuff is great.
Simply Complicated said about 1 month ago
the fact that you’ve only been drawing for a couple years makes me feel like shit
discordantart said about 1 month ago
so clean! looking really solid man
suffoca said about 1 month ago
i realy like using ink but cant ever get the scan and cross over to clean lines on the computer right always seems to be real low quality.
Ameeee said about 1 month ago
This is really cool. How much time has it added to your work?
heavyprints said about 1 month ago
Haha that’s awesome ray! I was under the impression that deck was done in manga or something. It scanned amazingly well!
godsloadedsociety said about 1 month ago
haha amazing! i was so excited, i thought this was the pseudo return of your manga studio settings!
either way, looks amazing frenden!
edgillustrator said about 1 month ago
amazing mate :]
derekdeal said about 1 month ago
yay paper!
basil said about 1 month ago
whoa
Setup85 said about 1 month ago
so clean
FRENDEN said about 1 month ago
I think that working with a tablet was actually good training. The muscle memory required for a confident stroke is the same either method. Undo is soooo great for experimentation, too.
I think I started drawing seriously in late '03, so I’m actually around the four-ish, heading towards five, mark when it comes to how long I have been drawing.
I don’t think I’ll abandon digital, but I will be doing more traditional work. It’s pretty rewarding and fun.
Inking wise, it might be a bit faster. Since there is no undo, you kind of have to blow right through it. Pencil wise, I’m not sure. I think, in the end, it’s pretty even.
Paper is fun. Getting your fingers dirty is fun. Fun is largely missing from commercial work, at times at least, so anything one can do to inject a feeling of play into the mix is probably a good thing. You think?
darenisdopeee said about 1 month ago
man your amazing
quakerninja said about 1 month ago
well played sir, I love working in real ink, no net makes every mark count, I think you will do better work this way.
FRENDEN said about 1 month ago
Naw. Look at Heavyprints - his progress is amazing.
The reason I posted this is because we all can get bogged down with brush settings and programs and the like. At the end of the day, it’s just making a mark. Make your marks the way that comes naturally to you and it won’t matter what you use.
darenisdopeee said about 1 month ago
No your fucking amazing hahahaha
so is heavyprints though
BuchananDesigns said about 1 month ago
Wow man. All of that looks GREAT!
Ameeee said about 1 month ago
I think it’s great to see you (and others) experimenting and having fun with it as well.
After you’ve inked the black, what’s the process?
Did you have to upgrade your scanner?
justinryan said about 1 month ago
Hey do you want to just send me your cintiq now so you have more room for paper?????????
Good work as always, homie.
FRENDEN said about 1 month ago
My scanner took a dive on me the other day. I am looking to get a new one. I might try watercoloring the inks traditionally, doing greyscale work traditionally, a combination of the two, or even painting with acrylics. Like you said - it’s just fun to experiment!
FRENDEN said about 1 month ago
Um, sure, JR. Sure! /me readies my bat.
Ameeee said about 1 month ago
I’d love to see some traditional watercolour inking - this is really exciting to hear about. I can’t wait to see the results. This experimentation will no doubt produce some of your most interesting work. Good luck!
godsloadedsociety said about 1 month ago
So true. I love HP.
Randomentity said about 1 month ago
i hate you, so much
M.Eureka said about 1 month ago
I want a Frenden book
downrodeo said about 1 month ago
dude, I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again... your work is meant for the papyrus. If I ever reach your standards, or even half of it, I know I’d be happy. Well, maybe, but only because I am soooo anal about everything.
Hey, would you be selling anything? If you could shoot some images my way I could get it up on my site. Let me know, dude. hello@alanbernard.com
heavyprints said about 1 month ago
This thread makes me blush.
ILU Ray.
quakerninja said about 1 month ago
hmm yeah I know its just for ha has but I would love to own a Frenden original doodle.
something to think about maybe, or a book would be nice.
KidneyLeans said about 1 month ago
Elks said about 1 month ago
that would be pretty sweet!
gumbolimbo said about 1 month ago
Interesting thread. I retunred (partially) to paper when it dawned on me that the stuttery fifties linework I wanted to achieve took much, much more time digital than analogue.
Plus, the feeling of direct contact with the paper is unbeatable to me.
The option to control-z can really be a blessing as well as a burden at times.
godmachine said about 1 month ago
seeing some of the developments in your line work makes me wonder/want to ask, if some of the digital lines were born through the tool rather than your doing...if ya get me. I bet this traditional lark has given you loads more freedom with it all. Loooks like you are having loads of fun. More please!
FRENDEN said about 1 month ago
I think there’s a little bit of from column A and a little bit from column B in your query. Manga Studio robs lines of extrreme thick to thin variances and nuance. In that way, some of the slickness of my work was a product of the tool, sure.
If anything, I feel like I have more control with analog art. Less cognitive disconnect between you and your input device of choice.
The little bit from column B, though, is that I was surprised to find I instinctually ink in very, very similar ways with a real brush and ink. The biggest difference, for me, was control over very fine lines (like hatching work). I always do a lot more hatching in my analog sketchbooks and now I have to find a way to work that into my "regular" style.
I think that, as is with any tool, your line is partly a product of the object making the mark. I have experimented with crowquill nibs lately, too, and find them to be a good inking tool that is almost more akin to a digital brush. My lines are slightly different from a brush, a quill, in Painter, or in Manga Studio.
So, yeah, a little from column A and a little from column B. Make sense?
(A slight aside, here is some of my first bonafied brush work from about a year ago. I did these sketch cards for Topps with a brush and then didn’t pick one up again till a little while ago. They show that, despite some extra detail possible with the analog medium, my style is pretty consistent from digital to analog and back, I think).
FRENDEN said about 1 month ago
This is just a doodle, so don’t judge it on its merit (anatomy and shading blow) but rather on what I was figuring out as I screwed around.
I think that value work paired with the lines can be a really strong image maker. I plan on inking over these guys to see how they turn out:
j.odom said about 1 month ago
amazing ray....