“Criticism is something we can avoid easily by saying nothing, doing nothing, and being nothing” Aristotle So, some gimp ripped apart your new drawing. That's all good, Like muscle, it needs to tear apart so it can fill that gap and get bigger and stronger. Where do I get these analogies from? The worst thing is when you know they aren't giving you criticism, but rather they are just being small minded spiteful jealous cocks. Ah well, like I say- always ask yourself why they have said and done such things, often they show themselves up. So on to the real critics, the ones that are not doing it through spite, but because 'they' see fault. <b>Chillax for a bit before you speak.</b> If you respond straight away you are more likely to unleash a torrent of knee-jerk reactionary abuse. Do yourself a favor and count to 10, or in my case wait till tomorrow or just walk away from it. You need to remember that they are either trying to help or that they are just jealous penis-heads. <b>Take both praise and criticism evenly.</b> Don't go thinking that praise makes you a hero, people are cool, praise is cool, but don't go celebrating over it. Some people are just positively amazingly ace people and will give you praise because, yes your work is good, but much like the shitty comments reflect negative people, awesome comments reflect that persons nature to just be awesome and say nice things. I like these people :) A great benefit of this is you become a bit like a zen warrior monk kung fu legend!! you do! You will be able to deal with both negative and positive in much the same way and it will stop you being a slave to those responses. Just because no one loves your high brow dog portrait, it wont stop you drawing them, it wont make you decide to chase love by doing goopy neon skulls. Eventually you will stop needing external praise and acceptance and find solace inside yourself. See! zen kung fu wisdom dude!! BUT, the caveat of this is that you shouldn't become an arrogant twat who ignores everyone's good, helpful advise when it is offered. If you see that it is some jealous prick who cant draw for shit and leaves shitty 'criticism', you must just smile and leave it well alone, no point it getting upset over talentless fools (see 'evil people' thread ). Also worth checking out my Ego thread to help with this. <b>Look hard at what they say</b> Instead of wanting to pound their faces in to a bloody pulp with the blunt end of a bottle and stamping on their throats till they are dead then waving their crudely severed head around on a stick....you should try to evaluate what they have said and why they have said it. ask them: - Why do you think 'this sucks balls mate'? - How, in your infinite wisdom, think I can improve it? - Is there a way to solve this problem? If they cant answer them or their answers are utter bollocks then you know they are one of those peanut penised persons. But if they can help you and do see how to fix the issues then they are your bestest buddies. well maybe not bestest but you have turned a shitty thing into something great. <b>Don't be so bloody selfish</b> Sometimes people just lash out because they have no friends or they feel insecure or they have nagging feelings of knowing through and through they will die alone because they refused to stop being a prick. What I mean to say is that its not always personal, don't take it as an attack on you and your being but rather a passing comment by some guy who is already either pointing out flaws in other peoples work or leaving spiteful comments on others. They are not always spiteful. they may just seem that way because you are emotionally involved. Remember that they are the ones with a problem- leave them have it. <b>The best revenge is to look after yourself</b> I read that on some kids myspace about 4 years ago and remembered thinking it was so true- so remember to be well rested, sleep enough, work hard, play, have fun, eat good food, relax and learn to forgive and love people, and mostly learn to love yourself. Do good things for people, learn to be humble and use that as a measurement of your character. <b>Big man on campus eh?</b> My mate says this before he tears someones head off in the pub. He is a small guy and you wouldn't think he was such an vicious little bastard. People often act big on forums and behind a computer- more often than not in real life people are usually a lot calmer and tamer and wouldn't be so crude and abrasive. The interwebs afford people a lot of protection. In real life 50% of the time they would hear 'oooohhh big man on campus eh?' before they had a personal, physical and up close encounter of the knee jerk reactions we just talked about avoiding. So anyway- a quote to finish off: “A man interrupted one of the Buddha’s lectures with a flood of abuse. Buddha waited until he had finished and then asked him, “If a man offered a gift to another but the gift was declined, to whom would the gift belong?” “To the one who offered it,” said the man. “Then,” said the Buddha, “I decline to accept your abuse and request you to keep it for yourself.” Simply don’t accept the gift of a criticism. You don’t have to. Then it still belongs to the person who offered it. have any of you got any tips of this nature or good stories about this sort of stuff? 2009-10-09T05:52:45-04:00 50 2009-10-05T08:46:33-04:00 true 0 85131 false false 9442 2802 1 2009-11-21T18:02:32-05:00 1171 sorry for the swearing. 85131 Post 2009-10-05T08:47:05-04:00 2742281 2802 2009-10-05T08:47:05-04:00 Big man on campus, eh? <spoiler>Serious words of wisdom, MD. Thank you. :)</spoiler> 85131 Post 2009-10-05T08:55:35-04:00 2742311 1498 2009-10-05T08:57:27-04:00 This is made of 100% pure Win™. 85131 Post 2009-10-05T08:57:04-04:00 2742331 25661 2009-10-05T08:57:04-04:00 MASTER !!i only wish you would criticise all of my designs so i can become a better artist !!feel free to start immediately ! who else could teach me more about composition,colors and perspective....... 85131 Post 2009-10-05T08:57:58-04:00 2742341 13226 2009-10-05T08:57:58-04:00 good thing to read! <spoiler>SERIOUSLY!</spoiler> 85131 Post 2009-10-05T09:10:07-04:00 2742401 10237 2009-10-05T09:10:07-04:00 yet again another insightful read, kudos! 85131 Post 2009-10-05T09:36:55-04:00 2742491 6463 2009-10-05T09:36:55-04:00 Wise words once again. 85131 Post 2009-10-05T09:46:51-04:00 2742571 7093 2009-10-05T09:46:51-04:00 <blockquote><cite>DeadRight said:</cite> Wise words once again.</blockquote> agreed 85131 Post 2009-10-05T09:51:38-04:00 2742601 7419 2009-10-05T09:51:38-04:00 I belive man is a virus not a animal, man consumes whatever it wants in amounts it wants ( land,food,resources ) but animal always has a balance with its home, a animal never eats to much they never shag to much for fear of over populating a area meaning there would be not enough food or room for there children or childrens children, so i say we should all sit back and think before we decide to do,take or demand something we can survive without. 85131 Post 2009-10-05T10:20:57-04:00 2742791 7419 2009-10-05T10:23:16-04:00 this is right up there with the ego thread 85131 Post 2009-10-05T10:34:24-04:00 2742861 10606 2009-10-05T10:34:24-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Ben M. said:</cite> I belive man is a virus not a animal, man consumes whatever it wants in amounts it wants ( land,food,resources ) but animal always has a balance with its home, a animal never eats to much they never shag to much for fear of over populating a area meaning there would be not enough food or room for there children or childrens children, so i say we should all sit back and think before we decide to do,take or demand something we can survive without.</blockquote> hahahahaa that's 100% untrue. when that happens we just call it survival of the fittest. they do shag too much, they do eat too much, but what happens? the population dies due to the effects they caused on their environment. we as a compassionate species do not want to see our fellow man die, so we do everything we can to keep people them alive, some kind of mirror morality. i understand what you're saying, we need to rethink the way we do things, BUT, nature isn't this blossoming symbiotic relationship where animals frolic and play, it's brutal. but that's life. nice post man. most successes are built on a framework of failure, and honest criticism is something that everyone can benefit from. too much do people have that knee jerk reaction (of course i'm guilty of it, we all are) but it's great to just learn to sit back, and let things process. i read a book on remote viewing, and the main point that it drove home was that human beings are like giant radio receivers, and they can pick up on so many little nuances and small things, but your brain wants to immediately make sense of things so it assigns reasoning to every bit of information. the trick to remote viewing, was to let your mind absorb more of this information and not let your preconceived notion of what things mean, or what people are saying, dictate what it means to you. once people learned how to do that they were able to open up their mind to the possibility of remote viewing. who knows if that shit is real, but i think this applies to most aspects of life. 85131 Post 2009-10-05T11:23:12-04:00 2743341 5570 2009-10-05T11:23:12-04:00 <blockquote><cite>xjoshuabelangerx said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Ben M. said:</cite> I belive man is a virus not a animal, man consumes whatever it wants in amounts it wants ( land,food,resources ) but animal always has a balance with its home, a animal never eats to much they never shag to much for fear of over populating a area meaning there would be not enough food or room for there children or childrens children, so i say we should all sit back and think before we decide to do,take or demand something we can survive without.</blockquote> hahahahaa that's 100% untrue. when that happens we just call it survival of the fittest. they do shag too much, they do eat too much, but what happens? the population dies due to the effects they caused on their environment. we as a compassionate species do not want to see our fellow man die, so we do everything we can to keep people them alive, some kind of mirror morality. i understand what you're saying, we need to rethink the way we do things, BUT, nature isn't this blossoming symbiotic relationship where animals frolic and play, it's brutal. but that's life. nice post man. most successes are built on a framework of failure, and honest criticism is something that everyone can benefit from. too much do people have that knee jerk reaction (of course i'm guilty of it, we all are) but it's great to just learn to sit back, and let things process. i read a book on remote viewing, and the main point that it drove home was that human beings are like giant radio receivers, and they can pick up on so many little nuances and small things, but your brain wants to immediately make sense of things so it assigns reasoning to every bit of information. the trick to remote viewing, was to let your mind absorb more of this information and not let your preconceived notion of what things mean, or what people are saying, dictate what it means to you. once people learned how to do that they were able to open up their mind to the possibility of remote viewing. who knows if that shit is real, but i think this applies to most aspects of life.</blockquote> I know nature isnt were animals frolic and play, anyone would be stupid to belive that was true,i do agree with the majority of what you are saying, and i would like to have a read of the book you talking about, sounds like it could shed alot of light on what i think is true, but its just atm how im seeing the world, thanks for taking the time to read it and giving a good response back no jst a witty one liner :) 85131 Post 2009-10-05T11:33:30-04:00 2743471 7419 2009-10-05T11:33:30-04:00 Amen wise one! 85131 Post 2009-10-05T11:40:50-04:00 2743541 42221 2009-10-05T11:40:50-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Ben M. said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>xjoshuabelangerx said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Ben M. said:</cite> I belive man is a virus not a animal, man consumes whatever it wants in amounts it wants ( land,food,resources ) but animal always has a balance with its home, a animal never eats to much they never shag to much for fear of over populating a area meaning there would be not enough food or room for there children or childrens children, so i say we should all sit back and think before we decide to do,take or demand something we can survive without.</blockquote> hahahahaa that's 100% untrue. when that happens we just call it survival of the fittest. they do shag too much, they do eat too much, but what happens? the population dies due to the effects they caused on their environment. we as a compassionate species do not want to see our fellow man die, so we do everything we can to keep people them alive, some kind of mirror morality. i understand what you're saying, we need to rethink the way we do things, BUT, nature isn't this blossoming symbiotic relationship where animals frolic and play, it's brutal. but that's life. nice post man. most successes are built on a framework of failure, and honest criticism is something that everyone can benefit from. too much do people have that knee jerk reaction (of course i'm guilty of it, we all are) but it's great to just learn to sit back, and let things process. i read a book on remote viewing, and the main point that it drove home was that human beings are like giant radio receivers, and they can pick up on so many little nuances and small things, but your brain wants to immediately make sense of things so it assigns reasoning to every bit of information. the trick to remote viewing, was to let your mind absorb more of this information and not let your preconceived notion of what things mean, or what people are saying, dictate what it means to you. once people learned how to do that they were able to open up their mind to the possibility of remote viewing. who knows if that shit is real, but i think this applies to most aspects of life.</blockquote> I know nature isnt were animals frolic and play, anyone would be stupid to belive that was true,i do agree with the majority of what you are saying, and i would like to have a read of the book you talking about, sounds like it could shed alot of light on what i think is true, but its just atm how im seeing the world, thanks for taking the time to read it and giving a good response back no jst a witty one liner :)</blockquote> sure man, it's called Remote Viewing Secrets by joseph McMoneagle it's a terribly boring read, hahaha, i read it at my peak of interest on the subject. i wanted to try but the steps to gain the ability require a 2nd party that know how to remote view....and unfortunately...i'm fresh outta those friends :) 85131 Post 2009-10-05T11:59:26-04:00 2743651 5570 2009-10-05T11:59:26-04:00 i definitely learned a lot since i've started being active on here. at first i thought i'd speak out for the underdogs, but the more i saw, the more i realized just how incredibly wrong i was. i was super defensive, which showed publicly. i think we need to focus way more on our critiques rather than bashing people. its sometimes good to ignore the dicks, but sometimes i'll be damned when i see these assholes just hurt people for no reason at all. yeah you could just look the other way, but i'd rather say something rather than not get involved. but you do gotta find a balance somewhere... we cant fight everybody's fights all the time. spot on read, just took forever :D and you get on to ME for going on and on hahaa. -love! 85131 Post 2009-10-05T12:43:38-04:00 2744181 10321 2009-10-05T12:43:38-04:00 godmachine for president 85131 Post 2009-10-05T12:51:38-04:00 2744251 13631 2009-10-05T12:51:38-04:00 great writeup GM! 85131 Post 2009-10-05T13:00:55-04:00 2744361 598 2009-10-05T13:00:55-04:00 tooooooooooooooooooooo long 85131 Post 2009-10-05T13:03:20-04:00 2744371 70651 2009-10-05T13:03:20-04:00 everything you write makes my day pretty much gm. amazing 85131 Post 2009-10-05T13:05:43-04:00 2744421 9210 2009-10-05T13:05:43-04:00 <blockquote><cite>murdercity said:</cite> tooooooooooooooooooooo long</blockquote> ROTFLMFAO 85131 Post 2009-10-05T13:08:00-04:00 2744451 10321 2009-10-05T13:08:00-04:00 Seriously, man, you're on of my fave people here, and it has nothing to do with your designs. 85131 Post 2009-10-05T13:09:22-04:00 2744471 9179 2009-10-05T13:09:22-04:00 good read 85131 Post 2009-10-05T13:36:38-04:00 2744751 11901 2009-10-05T13:36:38-04:00 <blockquote><cite>I AM SCUMBAG said:</cite> i definitely learned a lot since i've started being active on here. at first i thought i'd speak out for the underdogs, but the more i saw, the more i realized just how incredibly wrong i was. i was super defensive, which showed publicly. i think we need to focus way more on our critiques rather than bashing people. its sometimes good to ignore the dicks, but sometimes i'll be damned when i see these assholes just hurt people for no reason at all. yeah you could just look the other way, but i'd rather say something rather than not get involved. but you do gotta find a balance somewhere... we cant fight everybody's fights all the time. spot on read, just took forever :D and you get on to ME for going on and on hahaa. -love!</blockquote> agreed, very well put mate 85131 Post 2009-10-05T13:56:02-04:00 2745021 7419 2009-10-05T13:56:02-04:00 I like this. Give me a love button on this thread! 85131 Post 2009-10-05T14:18:13-04:00 2745411 51031 2009-10-05T14:18:13-04:00 "BUT, the caveat of this is that you shouldn’t become an arrogant twat who ignores everyone’s good, helpful advise when it is offered." I liked that bit ^ 85131 Post 2009-10-05T14:53:54-04:00 2745941 2991 2009-10-05T14:53:54-04:00 mmmmm i love blueberry nuffins 85131 Post 2009-10-05T14:56:40-04:00 2746001 1146 2009-10-05T14:56:48-04:00 Every time I read something like this i think about Moses (that's a good thing) Great read 85131 Post 2009-10-05T14:58:51-04:00 2746041 4552 2009-10-05T14:59:43-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Ben M. said:</cite> I belive man is a virus not a animal, man consumes whatever it wants in amounts it wants ( land,food,resources ) but animal always has a balance with its home, a animal never eats to much they never shag to much for fear of over populating a area meaning there would be not enough food or room for there children or childrens children, so i say we should all sit back and think before we decide to do,take or demand something we can survive without.</blockquote> sounds like the little speech agent smith gives to morpheus in the first matrix 85131 Post 2009-10-05T15:01:25-04:00 2746081 58171 2009-10-05T15:01:25-04:00 http://deputy-dog.com/2009/05/and-you-think-your-garbage-is.html this site shows some pictures that really bring home,what i was saying, well worth a look 85131 Post 2009-10-05T15:06:37-04:00 2746141 7419 2009-10-05T15:21:28-04:00 Just had an email off someone (not a client) that was butt-hurt and bent out of shape for some reason, he was snide, sinister and rude. Took all of my strength not to write some hilarious and equally rude reply. I deleted about 10 emails before setteling on something that thanked him for his time and effort and left it at that.....it was hard...hahah 85131 Post 2009-10-05T18:17:34-04:00 2749271 2802 2009-10-05T18:19:41-04:00 this write up sucked balls 85131 Post 2009-10-05T18:28:14-04:00 2749361 782 2009-10-05T18:28:14-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Chris Lovell said:</cite> Amen wise one!</blockquote> lol at that! hahaha 85131 Post 2009-10-05T18:48:45-04:00 2749611 10237 2009-10-05T18:48:45-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Godmachine said:</cite> Just had an email off someone (not a client) that was butt-hurt and bent out of shape for some reason, he was snide, sinister and rude. Took all of my strength not to write some hilarious and equally rude reply. I deleted about 10 emails before setteling on something that thanked him for his time and effort and left it at that.....it was hard...hahah</blockquote> preach & practice 85131 Post 2009-10-05T19:08:46-04:00 2749971 7419 2009-10-05T19:08:46-04:00 okay. 85131 Post 2009-10-05T19:09:57-04:00 2750021 13245 2009-10-05T19:09:57-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Ben M. said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Godmachine said:</cite> Just had an email off someone (not a client) that was butt-hurt and bent out of shape for some reason, he was snide, sinister and rude. Took all of my strength not to write some hilarious and equally rude reply. I deleted about 10 emails before setteling on something that thanked him for his time and effort and left it at that.....it was hard...hahah</blockquote> preach & practice</blockquote> I only learn about this stuff coz I <i>need</i> to learn it. 85131 Post 2009-10-05T19:11:09-04:00 2750031 2802 2009-10-05T19:11:09-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Godmachine said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Ben M. said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Godmachine said:</cite> Just had an email off someone (not a client) that was butt-hurt and bent out of shape for some reason, he was snide, sinister and rude. Took all of my strength not to write some hilarious and equally rude reply. I deleted about 10 emails before setteling on something that thanked him for his time and effort and left it at that.....it was hard...hahah</blockquote> preach & practice</blockquote> I only learn about this stuff coz I <i>need</i> to learn it.</blockquote> i think more people should but like i said lazyness is key :D (p.s didnt mean preach as in "hes to preachy" jst wanted to clear that up lol) 85131 Post 2009-10-05T19:15:33-04:00 2750101 7419 2009-10-05T19:16:08-04:00 It's a long read but good read nonetheless. Thanks sir Godmachine - as I've had some unwanted run-ins with some "critics" lately. This helped and will help a lot. 85131 Post 2009-10-05T21:21:19-04:00 2751601 10367 2009-10-05T21:29:26-04:00 When something its pleasant its never a long read. Thanks for taking the time to write this up. 85131 Post 2009-10-05T22:03:20-04:00 2751871 6279 2009-10-05T22:03:20-04:00 so true! good post GM... 85131 Post 2009-10-05T22:39:04-04:00 2752211 2870 2009-10-05T22:39:04-04:00 I'll fucking kill you all. I'm KING KONG! WHAT! WHAT! 85131 Post 2009-10-05T22:42:29-04:00 2752251 3175 2009-10-05T22:42:29-04:00 KING KONG AIN'T GOT NOTHIN ON ME! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehl7ZMAPD9M&feature=related 85131 Post 2009-10-05T22:50:32-04:00 2752301 9980 2009-10-05T22:50:32-04:00 I have been guilty of jumping to criticism is bashing. Everybody words phrases/critics differently, and everybody reads that comment in a different way. Bad communication. Good Post. 85131 Post 2009-10-06T01:44:04-04:00 2753431 13406 2009-10-06T01:44:04-04:00 When you're about to hit "add comment" think about if you received what you are sending, then erase it, then write something not dickfaceish. People will like you, you will like you. 85131 Post 2009-10-06T13:54:25-04:00 2758481 3175 2009-10-06T13:54:25-04:00 GM, you should write a book about this. Seems that you're learning so many important things about life while you write about them. I'd buy it. 85131 Post 2009-10-06T14:09:44-04:00 2758661 9208 2009-10-06T14:09:44-04:00 I enjoyed reading this... You're like buddah of emptees. :D 85131 Post 2009-10-07T04:05:36-04:00 2766641 14771 2009-10-07T04:05:36-04:00 Godmachine called me mate :P 85131 Post 2009-10-07T04:17:42-04:00 2766721 3804 2009-10-07T04:17:42-04:00 Wise words sensei, it's nice to read something positive such as your threads once in a while as everyone just seems to be hating' all the time. 85131 Post 2009-10-07T08:16:09-04:00 2767771 28421 2009-10-07T08:16:09-04:00 When people criticize me, I punch them in the neck. 85131 Post 2009-10-07T10:45:42-04:00 2768391 997 2009-10-07T10:45:42-04:00 Dude, your a freakin Saint. Seriously this is so boss. Thanks for this, I needed to read it. 85131 Post 2009-10-07T10:47:29-04:00 2768401 10688 2009-10-07T10:47:29-04:00 i used this as a link tonight 85131 Post 2009-10-09T05:52:45-04:00 2789051 9442 2009-10-09T05:52:45-04:00