So I read the pity party post and just wanted to talk a little bit about sales over the web. I was there to, started a shop, no one came to it and I barely got any sales. For most of you I would say it has nothing to do with your brand, product, or anything like that. You just need more traffic. The more traffic the more sales. Also targeting your customers will increase your conversion percentage. So how do you get more traffic. Blogs - It helps if you have a cool product which most of you have. Then you just contact the blog owners and have them post about you. The dude at Rethink markets everything really well. I've seen him on uncrate and a bunch of big blogs. Link exhanges - you got buddy's? Do a link exchange. Blog it up - don't talk about just your clothing company talk about what your customer is into. Making good content will get you a lot of google traffic with SEO. Myspace, twitter, facebook, to it up keep the content pumping out. Just get out there and make it happen. 2009-10-13T16:03:40-04:00 42 2009-10-09T20:46:15-04:00 true 0 86831 false false 8948 1219 1 2009-11-21T15:24:39-05:00 958 What is this wondrous taffic? Some sort of taffy? 86831 Post 2009-10-09T20:53:09-04:00 2796591 10311 2009-10-09T20:53:09-04:00 thanks for the advice! 86831 Post 2009-10-09T21:08:03-04:00 2796661 64811 2009-10-09T21:08:03-04:00 Blogs definitely help improve traffic! Most blogs are cool about posting your products as long as you approach them respectfully and have good products. 86831 Post 2009-10-09T21:08:17-04:00 2796671 7984 2009-10-09T21:08:17-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Random said:</cite> Blogs definitely help improve traffic! Most blogs are cool about posting your products as long as you approach them respectfully and have good products.</blockquote> don't most of them want free shwag in return? I thought I read somewhere that a lot of these blogs want free stuff but don't even guarantee they'll plug your company. or am I just imagining things? 86831 Post 2009-10-09T21:10:34-04:00 2796681 12224 2009-10-09T21:10:34-04:00 <blockquote><cite>disembodied head said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Random said:</cite> Blogs definitely help improve traffic! Most blogs are cool about posting your products as long as you approach them respectfully and have good products.</blockquote> don't most of them want free shwag in return? I thought I read somewhere that a lot of these blogs want free stuff but don't even guarantee they'll plug your company. or am I just imagining things?</blockquote> Actually most big blogs don't require that you send them free stuff. If you want to send them a free tee I'm sure that they will be very grateful LOL! 86831 Post 2009-10-09T21:13:24-04:00 2796731 7984 2009-10-09T21:13:24-04:00 <blockquote><cite>disembodied head said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Random said:</cite> Blogs definitely help improve traffic! Most blogs are cool about posting your products as long as you approach them respectfully and have good products.</blockquote> don't most of them want free shwag in return? I thought I read somewhere that a lot of these blogs want free stuff but don't even guarantee they'll plug your company. or am I just imagining things?</blockquote> It looks like that a lot of times that why I haven't wrote to a blogger yet don't need to lose stock and never hear a word about my brand or the bigger blogs like hypebeast mostly post known brands only 86831 Post 2009-10-09T21:21:06-04:00 2796821 2552 2009-10-09T21:21:41-04:00 I used to just email big tee shirt blogs, with little to no success. However ever since I started emailing horror blogs I have had alot more success. So if you go after blogs I would specifically target your demographic not just huge bland tee shirt blogs. My 2 cents anyways. 86831 Post 2009-10-09T21:44:51-04:00 2797061 8285 2009-10-09T21:44:51-04:00 <blockquote><cite>ibzombieliquorice said:</cite> I used to just email big tee shirt blogs, with little to no success. However ever since I started emailing horror blogs I have had alot more success. So if you go after blogs I would specifically target your demographic not just huge bland tee shirt blogs. My 2 cents anyways.</blockquote> The bigger shirt blogs don't give you that much traffic anyway. Your on the front page for a day or two if they post a lot. 86831 Post 2009-10-09T21:59:31-04:00 2797151 1219 2009-10-09T21:59:31-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Random said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>disembodied head said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Random said:</cite> Blogs definitely help improve traffic! Most blogs are cool about posting your products as long as you approach them respectfully and have good products.</blockquote> don't most of them want free shwag in return? I thought I read somewhere that a lot of these blogs want free stuff but don't even guarantee they'll plug your company. or am I just imagining things?</blockquote> Actually most big blogs don't require that you send them free stuff. If you want to send them a free tee I'm sure that they will be very grateful LOL!</blockquote> Yeah this is totally not the case for most blogs. Most of these cool cats do this because they like shirts and not just to get free stuff. I have had one or two that will only post if you send them a free shirt. You can tell though, their sites usually aren't as good because their heart isn't in the right place Here is one of those culprits. He makes you send in a shirt and will even talk shit if he doesn't like it. I am not a fan of him at all. http://www.tshirtreview.com/ 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:06:03-04:00 2797171 1219 2009-10-09T22:06:03-04:00 I had a guy e-mail me wanting free stuff in exchange for hyping me on his blog. Totally forgot about it until I saw this thread. I'm sure he was just looking for a handout but he does have quite a few followers so it might have been worth it... 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:10:49-04:00 2797181 8948 2009-10-09T22:10:49-04:00 <blockquote><cite>8-bit ZOMBIE said:</cite> I had a guy e-mail me wanting free stuff in exchange for hyping me on his blog. Totally forgot about it until I saw this thread. I'm sure he was just looking for a handout but he does have quite a few followers so it might have been worth it...</blockquote> Also check out my bullshit detector post. I check these dudes alexa tanking everytime. For places like uncrate I would give them 10 shirts to post about me. They have huge traffic and a big pull with customers and would totally be worth it. Most of these guys have poor traffic and just want some free shit. Thanks but no thanks. 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:13:00-04:00 2797211 1219 2009-10-09T22:13:00-04:00 <blockquote><cite>8-bit ZOMBIE said:</cite> I had a guy e-mail me wanting free stuff in exchange for hyping me on his blog. Totally forgot about it until I saw this thread. I'm sure he was just looking for a handout but he does have quite a few followers so it might have been worth it...</blockquote> Which guy? I sent one douche bag something and he didn't even bother posting...Total joke. 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:13:48-04:00 2797221 8285 2009-10-09T22:13:48-04:00 Just ask YouTube about traffic. They get one billion views per day. 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:14:45-04:00 2797231 7196 2009-10-09T22:14:45-04:00 <blockquote><cite>ibzombieliquorice said:</cite> I sent one douche bag something and he didn't even bother posting...Total joke.</blockquote> whats their site? 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:15:14-04:00 2797241 1876 2009-10-09T22:19:06-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Jon Kruse said:</cite> Also check out my bullshit detector post. I check these dudes alexa tanking everytime. For places like uncrate I would give them 10 shirts to post about me. They have huge traffic and a big pull with customers and would totally be worth it. Most of these guys have poor traffic and just want some free shit. Thanks but no thanks.</blockquote> Yeah I'm sure he's just looking to get free stuff. He's posting a picture of himself everyday and will wear what you send him. <blockquote><cite>ibzombieliquorice said:</cite> Which guy? I sent one douche bag something and he didn't even bother posting...Total joke.</blockquote> It's just a tumbler. <a href="http://kittylitter.tumblr.com/">LINK</a> 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:23:20-04:00 2797261 8948 2009-10-09T22:24:38-04:00 <blockquote><cite>8-bit ZOMBIE said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Jon Kruse said:</cite> Also check out my bullshit detector post. I check these dudes alexa tanking everytime. For places like uncrate I would give them 10 shirts to post about me. They have huge traffic and a big pull with customers and would totally be worth it. Most of these guys have poor traffic and just want some free shit. Thanks but no thanks.</blockquote> Yeah I'm sure he's just looking to get free stuff. He's posting a picture of himself everyday and will wear what you send him. <blockquote><cite>Birdie3431 said:</cite> Which guy? I sent one douche bag something and he didn't even bother posting...Total joke.</blockquote> whats their site?</blockquote> It's just a tumbler. <a href="http://kittylitter.tumblr.com/">LINK</a></blockquote> Yes! Thats the GUY! 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:24:02-04:00 2797271 8285 2009-10-09T22:24:02-04:00 Oh no! He's not getting anything from me then! I wonder if he lurks here... 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:25:28-04:00 2797281 8948 2009-10-09T22:28:03-04:00 Its been about a week and a half since his package arrived and now he doesnt really respond to emails. So as you can imagine I am a little skeptical. At this point he is not worthy of your thrash caps that is for sure. I will keep you all posted. I just emailed him again, hopefully it is all a misunderstanding. 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:28:17-04:00 2797291 8285 2009-10-09T22:28:17-04:00 Hah, he just said its going up this weekend. Time will tell. 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:32:04-04:00 2797311 8285 2009-10-09T22:32:04-04:00 i dont really know anything about this stuff, but i suggest getting some well known tweeters to tweet it 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:33:53-04:00 2797331 38321 2009-10-09T22:33:53-04:00 Hah, yeah ZL, let me know if he puts it up and if you think it effected your traffic. 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:38:05-04:00 2797361 8948 2009-10-09T22:38:05-04:00 <blockquote><cite>augie said:</cite> i dont really know anything about this stuff, but i suggest getting some well known tweeters to tweet it</blockquote> The problem I have with twitter is that it only provides instant traffic, and then nothing. Atleast blogs provide more steady traffic IMO. 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:43:11-04:00 2797401 7984 2009-10-09T22:43:41-04:00 can someone better explain seo? I understand the general idea of it, but I don't know how to use it in terms for my specific company. my company is just starting out so i cannot afford an entire website yet. do social networking sites like myspace, facebook, twitter etc give you seo or should i be taking different steps towards this? 86831 Post 2009-10-09T22:55:23-04:00 2797451 64811 2009-10-09T22:59:07-04:00 <blockquote><cite>CHAZZY said:</cite> can someone better explain seo? I understand the general idea of it, but I don't know how to use it in terms for my specific company. my company is just starting out so i cannot afford an entire website yet. do social networking sites like myspace, facebook, twitter etc give you seo or should i be taking different steps towards this?</blockquote> watch eric terrys post on it with his buddy on there chat awhile back 86831 Post 2009-10-10T00:11:07-04:00 2797701 1067 2009-10-10T00:11:07-04:00 <blockquote><cite>CHAZZY said:</cite> can someone better explain seo? I understand the general idea of it, but I don't know how to use it in terms for my specific company. my company is just starting out so i cannot afford an entire website yet. do social networking sites like myspace, facebook, twitter etc give you seo or should i be taking different steps towards this?</blockquote> SEO uses keywords in the text of a website but also in the different HTML tags within the source data. The latter of which you're really only going to get with your own website. In my opinion having social networking sites will help but it's not a solution. You really want something that's all about you. I make websites for small businesses and people who want to get their first taste of an online presence so let me know if you need more help. CK 86831 Post 2009-10-10T00:30:16-04:00 2797881 67921 2009-10-10T00:30:16-04:00 <blockquote><cite>8-bit ZOMBIE said:</cite> I had a guy e-mail me wanting free stuff in exchange for hyping me on his blog. Totally forgot about it until I saw this thread. I'm sure he was just looking for a handout but he does have quite a few followers so it might have been worth it...</blockquote> I've had that, and I don't even sell any tees! Probably not the same guy, though. 86831 Post 2009-10-10T00:32:49-04:00 2797921 9179 2009-10-10T00:32:49-04:00 what is good traffic? my traffic is somewhat high, but im sure not as high as alot. not too many blogs post about me. no link exchange... but my conversion rate is really high i think the product has alot to do with it. its people buying it on a whim. if they product is good, they wont sit back, and then say "you know what, ima wait" you want them to buy it the minute they see it. have a great product. get sales. thats my view. then once you have high traffic, you will be sitting pretty 86831 Post 2009-10-10T00:53:14-04:00 2797971 5678 2009-10-10T00:53:14-04:00 At <a href="http://www.rottenfresh.com">RottenFresh</a> we don't ask for any free stuff, if we like it we post it if we don't, we don't. My advice, you have more chance getting your stuff featured if you have a lookbook, a label description etc etc. 86831 Post 2009-10-10T12:39:51-04:00 2802081 72571 2009-10-10T12:39:51-04:00 At first glance i thought this said taffy=sales so you can imagine my disapointment when i found out this was not the case. But back on topic free taffy may also help your traffic, just sayin. 86831 Post 2009-10-10T14:28:12-04:00 2803121 3426 2009-10-10T14:28:12-04:00 I tend to send naked pics of my girlfriend to blogs it helps. 86831 Post 2009-10-10T14:35:09-04:00 2803231 2186 2009-10-10T14:35:09-04:00 <blockquote><cite>levi:TPM said:</cite> what is good traffic? my traffic is somewhat high, but im sure not as high as alot. not too many blogs post about me. no link exchange... but my conversion rate is really high i think the product has alot to do with it. its people buying it on a whim. if they product is good, they wont sit back, and then say "you know what, ima wait" you want them to buy it the minute they see it. have a great product. get sales. thats my view. then once you have high traffic, you will be sitting pretty</blockquote> Ultimately it's the product that sells. You have to get the word out though if no one sees it your shit out of luck, I feel that's the problem with a lot of companies out there. 86831 Post 2009-10-11T03:18:41-04:00 2808041 1219 2009-10-11T03:18:41-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Jon Kruse said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>levi:TPM said:</cite> what is good traffic? my traffic is somewhat high, but im sure not as high as alot. not too many blogs post about me. no link exchange... but my conversion rate is really high i think the product has alot to do with it. its people buying it on a whim. if they product is good, they wont sit back, and then say "you know what, ima wait" you want them to buy it the minute they see it. have a great product. get sales. thats my view. then once you have high traffic, you will be sitting pretty</blockquote> Ultimately it's the product that sells. You have to get the word out though if no one sees it your shit out of luck, I feel that's the problem with a lot of companies out there.</blockquote> true. if you are gonna have a successful line, you gotta work. not just think shirts are gonna naturally sell. tell everyone you know. i was at a university party tonight, and i told some chick i owned the company that made the shirt i was wearing, and she was all about. she seriously made me find a computer at the house so she could order. and ofcourse i found one. just do work. thats the main thing. work your butt off 86831 Post 2009-10-11T03:22:49-04:00 2808061 5678 2009-10-11T03:22:49-04:00 <blockquote><cite>8-bit ZOMBIE said:</cite> Hah, yeah ZL, let me know if he puts it up and if you think it effected your traffic.</blockquote> Thought I would update you all and warn you as well. If you ever get approached by a blog called kittylitter.tumblr.com for free gear, don't bother. He will say he gets 2500 hits a day and so on. Don't waste your time, I sent him a free shirt and we got a total of 6 hits! The guy also does so many postings in a single day that in less than 12 hours of him posting a picture of our shirt we were already page 3. Thought I would share that experience, take from it what you will. 86831 Post 2009-10-13T12:58:48-04:00 2834321 8285 2009-10-13T12:58:48-04:00 <blockquote><cite>ibzombieliquorice said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>8-bit ZOMBIE said:</cite> Hah, yeah ZL, let me know if he puts it up and if you think it effected your traffic.</blockquote> Thought I would update you all and warn you as well. If you ever get approached by a blog called kittylitter.tumblr.com for free gear, don't bother. He will say he gets 2500 hits a day and so on. Don't waste your time, I sent him a free shirt and we got a total of 6 hits! The guy also does so many postings in a single day that in less than 12 hours of him posting a picture of our shirt we were already page 3. Thought I would share that experience, take from it what you will.</blockquote> He contacted me and I promptly ignored him 86831 Post 2009-10-13T13:43:38-04:00 2835001 2186 2009-10-13T13:43:38-04:00 I personally think that Coty over at www.cotygonzales.com is one of the most passionate and 'real' guys out there in t-shirt blogland. I would definitely hit him up with free swag because he does such great, in-depth reviews of the tees he picks 86831 Post 2009-10-13T14:02:05-04:00 2835261 2734 2009-10-13T14:02:05-04:00 <blockquote><cite>D E M said:</cite> I personally think that Coty over at www.cotygonzales.com is one of the most passionate and 'real' guys out there in t-shirt blogland. I would definitely hit him up with free swag because he does such great, in-depth reviews of the tees he picks</blockquote> Agreed, I had a great experience dealing with Coty, everything he promised he delivered. 86831 Post 2009-10-13T14:21:00-04:00 2835591 8285 2009-10-13T14:21:00-04:00 If your product is shit then I don't see how traffic makes a difference, unless a scene kid wears it. 86831 Post 2009-10-13T14:27:27-04:00 2835771 56431 2009-10-13T14:27:27-04:00 <blockquote><cite>ibzombieliquorice said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>D E M said:</cite> I personally think that Coty over at www.cotygonzales.com is one of the most passionate and 'real' guys out there in t-shirt blogland. I would definitely hit him up with free swag because he does such great, in-depth reviews of the tees he picks</blockquote> Agreed, I had a great experience dealing with Coty, everything he promised he delivered.</blockquote> for sure. He always does things spot on. 86831 Post 2009-10-13T14:28:52-04:00 2835811 2186 2009-10-13T14:28:52-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Blue said:</cite> If your product is shit then I don't see how traffic makes a difference, unless a scene kid wears it.</blockquote> That's the point, Jon said it. "Ultimately it's the product that sells. You have to get the word out though if no one sees it your shit out of luck, I feel that's the problem with a lot of companies out there." Jon Kruse 86831 Post 2009-10-13T14:32:56-04:00 2835891 58171 2009-10-13T14:32:56-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Truman325i said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>ibzombieliquorice said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>8-bit ZOMBIE said:</cite> Hah, yeah ZL, let me know if he puts it up and if you think it effected your traffic.</blockquote> Thought I would update you all and warn you as well. If you ever get approached by a blog called kittylitter.tumblr.com for free gear, don't bother. He will say he gets 2500 hits a day and so on. Don't waste your time, I sent him a free shirt and we got a total of 6 hits! The guy also does so many postings in a single day that in less than 12 hours of him posting a picture of our shirt we were already page 3. Thought I would share that experience, take from it what you will.</blockquote> He contacted me and I promptly ignored him</blockquote> That really sucks. I already told this to Jason, but that kid needs to learn a lot about promotion if he's going to keep doing that. He put NO enthusiasm into the post whatsoever. (Come on! You got a free shirt kid!) Plus his picture DID NOT do the shirt justice. It's like a myspace mirror pic. And then, as Jason said, he posts too damn much. Posts get buried in a matter of hours. Unprofessional kid looking for freebies. He must either lurk here or just go through Big Cartel looking for stuff that he wants for free... 86831 Post 2009-10-13T14:48:33-04:00 2836121 8948 2009-10-13T14:55:23-04:00 <blockquote><cite>8-bit ZOMBIE said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Truman325i said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>ibzombieliquorice said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>8-bit ZOMBIE said:</cite> Hah, yeah ZL, let me know if he puts it up and if you think it effected your traffic.</blockquote> Thought I would update you all and warn you as well. If you ever get approached by a blog called kittylitter.tumblr.com for free gear, don't bother. He will say he gets 2500 hits a day and so on. Don't waste your time, I sent him a free shirt and we got a total of 6 hits! The guy also does so many postings in a single day that in less than 12 hours of him posting a picture of our shirt we were already page 3. Thought I would share that experience, take from it what you will.</blockquote> He contacted me and I promptly ignored him</blockquote> That really sucks. I already told this to Jason, but that kid needs to learn a lot about promotion if he's going to keep doing that. He put NO enthusiasm into the post whatsoever. (Come on! You got a free shirt kid!) Plus his picture DID NOT do the shirt justice. It's like a myspace mirror pic. And then, as Jason said, he posts too damn much. Posts get buried in a matter of hours. Unprofessional kid looking for freebies. He must either lurk here or just go through Big Cartel looking for stuff that he wants for free...</blockquote> You can't really blame blogs when they use bad pictures or don't talk about the stuff you wanted them to. Make a media page with all your images they can use, send them a bio, and everything they need to write a detailed article about you. Most bloggers won't spend the time so you have to do some of the work for them. 86831 Post 2009-10-13T16:01:54-04:00 2837291 1219 2009-10-13T16:01:54-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Jon Kruse said:</cite> You can't really blame blogs when they use bad pictures or don't talk about the stuff you wanted them to. Make a media page with all your images they can use, send them a bio, and everything they need to write a detailed article about you. Most bloggers won't spend the time so you have to do some of the work for them.</blockquote> I would definitely expect more than one sentence... (Which is what Zombie Liquorice got) But yeah good idea about producing images/words for them ahead of time. 86831 Post 2009-10-13T16:03:40-04:00 2837321 8948 2009-10-13T16:04:19-04:00