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  <body>your last comment in that SD thread made me want to show you this. Hopefully next year I will be making my way to the states and have chosen to make it more of an adventure and have decided to go by sea. Having looked into and researched it all, I wanted to show you these videos- and everyone else.

Mistahfred said "big boats dont really get bumped around by big waves, they are like moving land-mass so what ever the sea the boats should hardly move, at least thats how i think it works."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deX7R9RbmX0&amp;feature=related

and this one of a 12000 tonne boat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX3kFCgvKp4

you know when you sit in the seat near the wing on an aeroplane and on landing you see the wings bend...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6tVNEJtP6c&amp;feature=related


maybe I should get a plane haha</body>
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      <body>"big boats dont really get bumped around by big waves, they are like moving land-mass so what ever the sea the boats should hardly move, at least thats how i think it works." 

= dumb</body>
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      <body>&lt;img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gju-QJSgjiI/RxyVuN1Tl2I/AAAAAAAAAKU/hZJnoFP_d4g/s400/All+aboard+the+failboat+-+mmc10025.jpg" /&gt;

not you, fred</body>
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      <body>That made me sea sick watching those</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;horsebites said:&lt;/cite&gt; That made me sea sick watching those&lt;/blockquote&gt;

same lol</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;derekdeal said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gju-QJSgjiI/RxyVuN1Tl2I/AAAAAAAAAKU/hZJnoFP_d4g/s400/All+aboard+the+failboat+-+mmc10025.jpg" /&gt;

not you, fred&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Genius.

Just watch Deadliest Catch, those crab boats get tossed around like they weigh nothing at all.

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      <body>Going to the states by boat definitely sounds like an adventure. How do you go about doing that?</body>
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      <body>That corridor creaking scares the shiz out of me.</body>
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      <body>The ironic thing is as im watching that cruise ship getting smashed, google ads is popping up things like "Caribbean Cruises 80% off"....</body>
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      <body>man GM...I was thinking about taking a boat trip the other way (from US to Ireland/UK) but those videos make me give it a second thought...might just stick to a plane...

I'd love to hear some more about your research, I haven't had much luck finding anything other than cruise lines (which may be the only way to go)...

and just as a side note from that 2nd video, the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack is fantastic...and Jennifer Connelly is hot...</body>
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      <body>no doubt, big boats can rock a ton. my step father said that they used to have belts/straps on all their beds for when they slept, to avoid getting hurt or falling out of bunks.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;justinryan said:&lt;/cite&gt; no doubt, big boats can rock a ton. my step father said that they used to have belts/straps on all their beds for when they slept, to avoid getting hurt or falling out of bunks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's exactly what I was thinking when Sitting Duck was telling his story, I was like "Geez it's almost like they need seatbelts for their bed or something!"

Great selection of vids Senor Machino...please place me firmly in the "land lubber" category :D</body>
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      <body>these videos are goddamn terrifying.</body>
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      <body>I've watched the top and bottom ones before. Properly scary. Not the ideal place on earth to have a drama if you ask me lol</body>
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      <body>That was spoken like someone who has never been on a big boat in a storm.  The difference between a land mass and a big boat is that the land mass is anchored to more land underneath it.  A boat is free floating.  Ughhh.

We took a ferry from Calais to Dover when I lived in England.  It stormed pretty bad and that boat was definitely moving.  GM, you are an adventurer for sure.</body>
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      <body>Don't watch these vids if you are stoned... seriously.</body>
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      <body>looks great doesnt it. first stop: New York! woo woo! here is a good resource page to start from if you are interested http://www.geocities.com/freighterman.geo/</body>
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      <body>thanks for the link GM...checking it out now...</body>
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      <body>loving the sky sports news music on the second video</body>
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      <body>barf</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;matt901 said:&lt;/cite&gt; loving the sky sports news music on the second video&lt;/blockquote&gt;

buy the requiem for a dream soundtrack...really good...think that's where the music came from...</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;of1000kings said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;matt901 said:&lt;/cite&gt; loving the sky sports news music on the second video&lt;/blockquote&gt;

buy the requiem for a dream soundtrack...really good...think that's where the music came from...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yeah I did a little bit of googling. Kronos Quartet

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      <body>while watching the first video google ads showed me all ads for cruise ships.  maybe not the best choice.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;molasses4masses said:&lt;/cite&gt; That was spoken like someone who has never been on a big boat in a storm.  The difference between a land mass and a big boat is that the land mass is anchored to more land underneath it.  A boat is free floating.  Ughhh.

We took a ferry from Calais to Dover when I lived in England.  It stormed pretty bad and that boat was definitely moving.  GM, you are an adventurer for sure.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I should of wrote *ship* instead of boat haha, what i meant was none of the bigger (cargo, container) ships would get pushed around enough for people to start flying out of bed. I take the Dover - Calais route 4/5 times a year and its one of the worst crossings.  Also the North Pole is land mass, and doesn't have anything underneath it ;) </body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;mistahfred said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;molasses4masses said:&lt;/cite&gt; That was spoken like someone who has never been on a big boat in a storm.  The difference between a land mass and a big boat is that the land mass is anchored to more land underneath it.  A boat is free floating.  Ughhh.

We took a ferry from Calais to Dover when I lived in England.  It stormed pretty bad and that boat was definitely moving.  GM, you are an adventurer for sure.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I should of wrote *ship* instead of boat haha, what i meant was none of the bigger (cargo, container) ships would get pushed around enough for people to start flying out of bed. I take the Dover - Calais route 4/5 times a year and its one of the worst crossings.  Also the North Pole is land mass, and doesn't have anything underneath it ;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Did you not watch the videos?!</body>
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      <body>last ship I was on sank. True story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgncwm9cMio</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;mistahfred said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;molasses4masses said:&lt;/cite&gt; That was spoken like someone who has never been on a big boat in a storm.  The difference between a land mass and a big boat is that the land mass is anchored to more land underneath it.  A boat is free floating.  Ughhh.

We took a ferry from Calais to Dover when I lived in England.  It stormed pretty bad and that boat was definitely moving.  GM, you are an adventurer for sure.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I should of wrote *ship* instead of boat haha, what i meant was none of the bigger (cargo, container) ships would get pushed around enough for people to start flying out of bed. I take the Dover - Calais route 4/5 times a year and its one of the worst crossings.  Also the North Pole is land mass, and doesn't have anything underneath it ;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Earth is 70% water...i'm pretty sure at some point if the ocean decides to toss a ship, it's going to toss the fucking ship, no matter how large.  And yeah, did you not watch those fucking videos!?!?  It's obviously possible.  Stop trying to out-knowledge Godmachine.  He's kinda like your dad when your a little kid.  He just knows everything about everything.  Drop it.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Sol Amstutz said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;mistahfred said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;molasses4masses said:&lt;/cite&gt; That was spoken like someone who has never been on a big boat in a storm.  The difference between a land mass and a big boat is that the land mass is anchored to more land underneath it.  A boat is free floating.  Ughhh.

We took a ferry from Calais to Dover when I lived in England.  It stormed pretty bad and that boat was definitely moving.  GM, you are an adventurer for sure.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I should of wrote *ship* instead of boat haha, what i meant was none of the bigger (cargo, container) ships would get pushed around enough for people to start flying out of bed. I take the Dover - Calais route 4/5 times a year and its one of the worst crossings.  Also the North Pole is land mass, and doesn't have anything underneath it ;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Earth is 70% water...i'm pretty sure at some point if the ocean decides to toss a ship, it's going to toss the fucking ship, no matter how large.  And yeah, did you not watch those fucking videos!?!?  It's obviously possible.  Stop trying to out-knowledge Godmachine.  He's kinda like your dad when your a little kid.  He just knows everything about everything.  Drop it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My comment wasn't directed at Godmachine, and i wasn't trying to out-knowledge anyone. Maybe instead of trying to be the big man by telling me to 'drop it' you could of not commented and realised there is nothing 'to drop'. But thanks for your input and hijack of Godmachines thread. </body>
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